why does all the heat fall on the fighters for poor numbers and not the promotion?

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first of all I don't get the obsessionmma fans have Winn PPV numbers and how much fighters draw with that being said why do fighters take all the blame for poor drawing power?

A fighters job is to become the best fighter they can be and a promoters job is to promote that fighter. if a great fighters fights arent selling the promotion is doing a shit job.
 
It is the promoter's job.

The promoters will pass the buck to the fighters just because they can. Plus everyone at home thinks they are couch promoters and factor in the interest levels fighters have.

Fact is people tune in for characters and charisma. Neither of those things win you fights so you can give all the credit in the world for popular fighters but very rarely will you get a Conor or a Ronda. It's the television network, promoter and advertising team's job to get these fighters more popular and get people to care.

Mighty Mouse is finishing people and showing elite level skills in the cage but really the reason he isn't giving the love from the fair weather fans is because the UFC has not built the division up. NOW though we are about to hit a VERY good time in Flyweight division. We have some great prospects coming up from TUF and from some recent prelim fights on UFC cards.

IMO Eric Shelton is one to watch as he gave Tim Elliott a very competitive fight.
 
So Conor and his fans can talk shit even though no fighter gets the push that Conor got

I dont care about PPV numbers. Ive ordered every PPV but one since i started following MMA
 
I always appreciated how pro wrestling would incorporate "managers" to promote wrestlers who could walk the walk but couldn't talk the talk. (Jimmy Hart, Paul Bearer, Paul Heyman, etc)

Why the UFC doesn't hire a PR specialist for their fighters amazes me. Instead of trying to force Aldo to learn English hire him a public relations person and with his background and story he'd be a star especially in the USA where everyone loves a "started from the bottom and eventually rose to the top" story.
 
Because most fans are just sheep who will drink whatever kool-aid the UFC serves them.
 
So Conor and his fans can talk shit even though no fighter gets the push that Conor got

I dont care about PPV numbers. Ive ordered every PPV but one since i started following MMA

Name a fighter who would have Conor's level of star power if he was given a similar push?
 
Because the rules and judging are shit.
Fighters that tailor their styles to winning 10-9 rounds are going to be less popular (and GSP is the lone exception).

Fighters that play patty cake and try to surprise their opponents with "no reason TD's" will not be needle movers.
 
Because look at how Conor articulates. He speaks very confidently and he is witty. He has comebacks for his opponents over and over again. And he does it smoothly.

"Ladies first" to Cerrone.
"The only weight I care about is the weight of my cheques. And my cheques are always heavyweight."

You have to have class, wit, poise, and talent to be a star.
 
A promoter can only do so much. There's only so much that can be done to promote a fighter outside of what they do themselves in the ring, on the microphone, and outside of competition. .
 
UFC has a model to promote UFC brand and not thier fighters.
 
Dude you dont think conor pushes himself?
Exactly. Promoters can only do so much, almost every fighter holds a record for some miscellaneous bullshit. Conor stands out because he takes initiative and doesn't heavily rely on others.
 
UFC has a model to promote UFC brand and not thier fighters.
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The UFC always was and always will be about their brand and not about the fighters.(the Reebok deal)

They will push a fighter when they see an already pre built interest.
Lazer,Chael,Honda or Connie comes as example but it is up to the fighter to build that interest and turn into PPVs sells.

MMA IS BUILT ON FANS but the UFC SELLS BETTER ON CASUALS.
 
Because look at how Conor articulates. He speaks very confidently and he is witty. He has comebacks for his opponents over and over again. And he does it smoothly.

"Ladies first" to Cerrone.
"The only weight I care about is the weight of my cheques. And my cheques are always heavyweight."

You have to have class, wit, poise, and talent to be a star.
Jesus Christ man you sound gay for him.
 
I like the promotion to be on both shoulders. The fighters especially. It makes it more genuine.
 
Promoters provide a forum for the fighters, but at a certain point it's a fighters job to take advantage of the exposure and run with it. Did a promotor "create" Muhammed Ali? Absolutely not. Plus he didn't just become he own promoter, he used his verbal prowess to get in the heads of other fighters and beat them mentally before they ever stepped in the ring.

Fighting is like any other job, at a certain point the responsibility for getting ahead falls on YOUR shoulders, not your boss or the company. I seriously wonder sometimes if many of the members on here actually do live in a basement or under a rock and have never achieved even a low level of success in the real world to understand this.
 
so it's not the boring fighter's fault for fighting boring??
 
Fighters job to be exciting and promote themselves in a manner pleasing to the paying public. It is the promotions duty to capitalize on fighters that have the talent to be exciting but also the personality to draw in the fans. Basically it falls on the fighters first..

That being said I would give the UFC a "C" in the promotion department because they usually put all their eggs in one basket (they have favorites). The promotion shouldn't show any bias and work as hard as they possibly can to elevate their entire brand. The UFC has failed miserably in this respect IMO. Dana is a clown, and watching him operate is like watching a train wreck, you just can't look away but the focus shouldn't be on him he should redirect it to his fighting staff at every possible opportunity. He doesn't. The UFC is in need of new management and has been for years.
 
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