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Not a troll thread.
http://www.the42.ie/john-kavanagh-column-26-august-2016-2949806-Aug2016/
After reading Kavanagh's opinion here that Conor won round 3, I decided to watch it in slow motion and score significant strikes* for each fighter, because up until now I thought Nate won 3, albeit not dominantly.
Anything that was deflected didn't get scored, anything that the camera didn't fully show wasn't scored, anything that wasn't potentially damaging wasn't scored (criteria for "potentially damaging" being something harder than what I'd throw in 15% light sparring). I had to take far more potential strikes away from Conor than from Nate -- it was really easy to see when Nate was throwing to hurt, and the things he landed were shown more clearly than when Conor was trying to punch through Nate's double forearm guard for example (so I didn't score anything for Conor because couldn't see whether they got through). None of Conor's jabs were scored, nor were the punches that made Nate stagger but only hit him uncleanly. I gave Nate the benefit of the doubt at times but never to Conor.
2 minutes in, Nate has landed two significant strikes, Conor's landed 8. And Conor's strikes have been far better, Nate's jabbed, Conor's thrown elbows that connected and hooks that stagger Nate.
3 minutes in, only significant strikes in the clinch have been Conor's elbows when disengaging. Both men throwing equal volume, both just slapping and the landed hits are an annoyance at most.
Score at 2 minutes left (3 minutes in): 10-2 to Conor.
1:00 left, 4 minutes in: 14-3 Conor. There is no doubt whatsoever that Conor won the first 4 minutes.
End result: 14-8 in Conor's favor, with Nate landing 5 significant punches in the last clinch and Conor landing nothing. Conor was never close to being finished. Even the significant strikes that Nate landed in the clinch weren't damaging enough to finish anyone, and were nowhere near as hard as Conor's hardest strikes in the round.
1-2-3-4 were Conor's rounds.
Not blaming the judges for giving the third to Nate though (10-8 is still fucking ridiculous), but realistically, Conor won it due to landing more significant strikes and also the harder ones.
*not to be confused with fightmetric significant strikes
http://www.the42.ie/john-kavanagh-column-26-august-2016-2949806-Aug2016/
After reading Kavanagh's opinion here that Conor won round 3, I decided to watch it in slow motion and score significant strikes* for each fighter, because up until now I thought Nate won 3, albeit not dominantly.
Anything that was deflected didn't get scored, anything that the camera didn't fully show wasn't scored, anything that wasn't potentially damaging wasn't scored (criteria for "potentially damaging" being something harder than what I'd throw in 15% light sparring). I had to take far more potential strikes away from Conor than from Nate -- it was really easy to see when Nate was throwing to hurt, and the things he landed were shown more clearly than when Conor was trying to punch through Nate's double forearm guard for example (so I didn't score anything for Conor because couldn't see whether they got through). None of Conor's jabs were scored, nor were the punches that made Nate stagger but only hit him uncleanly. I gave Nate the benefit of the doubt at times but never to Conor.
2 minutes in, Nate has landed two significant strikes, Conor's landed 8. And Conor's strikes have been far better, Nate's jabbed, Conor's thrown elbows that connected and hooks that stagger Nate.
3 minutes in, only significant strikes in the clinch have been Conor's elbows when disengaging. Both men throwing equal volume, both just slapping and the landed hits are an annoyance at most.
Score at 2 minutes left (3 minutes in): 10-2 to Conor.
1:00 left, 4 minutes in: 14-3 Conor. There is no doubt whatsoever that Conor won the first 4 minutes.
End result: 14-8 in Conor's favor, with Nate landing 5 significant punches in the last clinch and Conor landing nothing. Conor was never close to being finished. Even the significant strikes that Nate landed in the clinch weren't damaging enough to finish anyone, and were nowhere near as hard as Conor's hardest strikes in the round.
1-2-3-4 were Conor's rounds.
Not blaming the judges for giving the third to Nate though (10-8 is still fucking ridiculous), but realistically, Conor won it due to landing more significant strikes and also the harder ones.
*not to be confused with fightmetric significant strikes