Article on "Why Boxers get paid more than MMA Fighters"

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"When one looks at boxing it becomes obvious that no single promoter dominates the landscape (no matter how hard PBC is trying) to the degree that the UFC does MMA. Top Rank, Golden Boy, Mayweather Promotions, Roc Nation, Kathy Duva's Main Event, Lou DiBella, Gary Shaw, Yvon Michel, and Jean Bedard's Interbox are all promoting major boxers in the United States and Canada. In addition K2, Eddie Hearn's Matchroom, Frank Warren's Box Nation, Fernando Betron, Team Sauerland and other major promoters are competing with those promoters for boxers outside the ABC.

In MMA almost every top fighter, with the exception of a very small handful, is in the UFC. This concentration of top fighters in the UFC also helps explain the discrepancy we see between boxing and UFC prelim purses: UFC prelims are filled with fighters that would often be fighting on main cards under a multitude of boxing promoters."


Would MMA benefit more by kind of staying a sort of monopoly or welcoming more competition? Boxing is in pretty weird shape now and its full of competition.


"Based on their position in the market, it seems plausible that the UFC could actually pay less if they wish. It's a situation that is not lost on several MMA managers, who were complimentary to the UFC for being more generous than they had to be, considering the lack of leverage most fighters had. Ironically too, the UFC position in the market very likely limits how much MMA managers can charge their clients. The fact that there is very little career/fight management to be done for UFC fighters compared to that of boxers who have to negotiate with multiple promoters, sanctioning bodies and broadcast partners, has led to MMA managers having to charge less for their services. The same holds true for sanctioning bodies, where the UFC's ownership of their own titles means sanctioning fees are no longer the responsibility of an MMA fighter.

The sad truth is most MMA fighters make less than boxers, a sport that itself has a long and terrible history of taking advantage of its athletes. The even sadder truth is that matching boxing may be the best thing MMA fighters can ask for."


Thoughts people?
 
Boxing has been around 6 Billion years, MMA is relativity new
 
everything in the article seems to make sense.

i think a fighters union makes sense -- if the 85/15 split is true then there is certainly room to greatly increase the fighters share even if you dont get close to 50/50
 
Yeah, the UFC got this business wrapped up.

Only the superstars make millions while a small minority make 6 figures. Everyone else is getting short changed in my opinion for what they do & the training they have to pay for.

But hey... that's where we're at & you have the choice of moving into a different occupation. The UFC is here to stay & we gotta play their game.
 
Pretty much the same that's always said about the UFC. They are a virtual monopoly, the fighters should unionize. And then some shills praise the UFC's business savy and say it's all fair.
 
While what you've posted is true, I thought it was pretty obvious. Basically it's saying mma fighters make less because the UFC is mostly a monopoly. No surprise there.

One thing that could turn the tide is a union. It's hard to do because the top fighters would have to join and athletes aren't often willing to risk their paychecks in exchange for helping anyone else. Combat sports are especially full of self-centered athletes by their very nature. The irony is that what keeps fighter pay low in MMA, the UFC being a de facto monopoly, might actually make forming a union more easy than in boxing where everyone is a free agent.
 
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"When one looks at boxing it becomes obvious that no single promoter dominates the landscape (no matter how hard PBC is trying) to the degree that the UFC does MMA. Top Rank, Golden Boy, Mayweather Promotions, Roc Nation, Kathy Duva's Main Event, Lou DiBella, Gary Shaw, Yvon Michel, and Jean Bedard's Interbox are all promoting major boxers in the United States and Canada. In addition K2, Eddie Hearn's Matchroom, Frank Warren's Box Nation, Fernando Betron, Team Sauerland and other major promoters are competing with those promoters for boxers outside the ABC.

In MMA almost every top fighter, with the exception of a very small handful, is in the UFC. This concentration of top fighters in the UFC also helps explain the discrepancy we see between boxing and UFC prelim purses: UFC prelims are filled with fighters that would often be fighting on main cards under a multitude of boxing promoters."


Would MMA benefit more by kind of staying a sort of monopoly or welcoming more competition? Boxing is in pretty weird shape now and its full of competition.


"Based on their position in the market, it seems plausible that the UFC could actually pay less if they wish. It's a situation that is not lost on several MMA managers, who were complimentary to the UFC for being more generous than they had to be, considering the lack of leverage most fighters had. Ironically too, the UFC position in the market very likely limits how much MMA managers can charge their clients. The fact that there is very little career/fight management to be done for UFC fighters compared to that of boxers who have to negotiate with multiple promoters, sanctioning bodies and broadcast partners, has led to MMA managers having to charge less for their services. The same holds true for sanctioning bodies, where the UFC's ownership of their own titles means sanctioning fees are no longer the responsibility of an MMA fighter.

The sad truth is most MMA fighters make less than boxers, a sport that itself has a long and terrible history of taking advantage of its athletes. The even sadder truth is that matching boxing may be the best thing MMA fighters can ask for."


Thoughts people?
what's the TLDR? ain't no one got time for paragraphs of shit!!!
 
How many boxing fights do you see on TV these days. On top of that, how many of those shows have 12 fights on them?

UFC runs a ton of shows and on those shows, they are filled with fighters getting paid. To use an analogy, would you rather work 40 hours a week and get a steady paycheck or work part time with an unsteady job in hopes of landing that one big contracting job?

Boxers only make more money than fighters on big cards which are few and few between. UFC may not be paying all of their fighters millions of dollars but they are giving a roster of 500 fighters consistent work.
 
How many boxing fights do you see on TV these days. On top of that, how many of those shows have 12 fights on them?

UFC runs a ton of shows and on those shows, they are filled with fighters getting paid. To use an analogy, would you rather work 40 hours a week and get a steady paycheck or work part time with an unsteady job in hopes of landing that one big contracting job?

Boxers only make more money than fighters on big cards which are few and few between. UFC may not be paying all of their fighters millions of dollars but they are giving a roster of 500 fighters consistent work.
Inb4 "You're just a UFC shill"
 
This isn't about promotion ladies and gentlemen it is about age. Mma is a new sport boxing is one of the oldest. Hell mma is just now getting to fight at the garden. It is growing while boxing is a bit stagnant in its growth. Give it time.
 
More money in boxing because of the amount of promoters and TV networks.
 
This isn't about promotion ladies and gentlemen it is about age. Mma is a new sport boxing is one of the oldest. Hell mma is just now getting to fight at the garden. It is growing while boxing is a bit stagnant in its growth. Give it time.
In my opinion, age isn't that big of a factor because considering the avenues now for promotion, growth can accelerate really fast. In fact i think boxing being such an established sport actually makes it lag behind in marketing etc.
 
Also boxing undercard gets the same as UFC undercard and all the boxing cards are spread out to different promoters. UFC has to cover the cost of every card and give us a ton.
 
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How many boxing fights do you see on TV these days. On top of that, how many of those shows have 12 fights on them?

UFC runs a ton of shows and on those shows, they are filled with fighters getting paid. To use an analogy, would you rather work 40 hours a week and get a steady paycheck or work part time with an unsteady job in hopes of landing that one big contracting job?

Boxers only make more money than fighters on big cards which are few and few between. UFC may not be paying all of their fighters millions of dollars but they are giving a roster of 500 fighters consistent work.
um "consistent" okay...do you think CERRONE is the only fighter in UFC?
 
I wish all of mma fell under a single commission, like Shooto.
 
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