How is Conor different than old Overeem ...

[knight]

in regards of his first fight with Nate. The argument that is mostly used is how he "completely dominated" Nate before he gassed. If he could've kept that up, he'd have destroyed Nate.

That was basically the argument for Overeem for years pre Econoreem. He would completely dominate basically everyone the first round (or few minutes). If he wouldn't overwhelm someone, he'd gas and loses.

So in regards to logic and the sake of argument, what exactly is the difference between the two?

Overeem eventually changed his approach., which led to his current winning streak (most feel his old strategy would definately get him KTFO'd by JDS). Conor basically said he'd come better prepared this time and plans on doing what he was doing the first round (starts at 11:52):


Will he have the cardio to keep that up? We'll see.

 

[13Seconds]

Well Overeem had a ground game

 

[Kyler Ruxin]

A big difference is size. Conor is still going to have a tough time with Diaz's reach. The other is ground game, Diaz's, if he decides to use it, is far better. And then there's Nate's chin, which is better than all of his opponents.

 

[Rittsy]

EconoConor.

 

[Dogshare]

That was basically the argument for Overeem for years pre Econoreem. He would completely dominate basically

Conor & Reem = Econoreem

 

[Ol'Ironhead]

Its impossible to compare these two. Completely different fighting styles.

 

[shator]

Conor would have to dominate, gas, and crumble a few more times. But I see where you are going with this.

 

[yookfarb]

what the fuck is wrong with being like Reem?

 

[legedema]

Conor is not Overeem,
Overeem got much more tools

 

[Slapchoppin]

Overeem has always had a good submission game

 

[FlyingKimurabar]

He dominated the 1st round against a guy who was on a boat doing shots 11 days before the fight...

Nate was rusty and had had shit timing cuz he did zero sparring or training for the fight lol.

 

[Iroh]

in regards of his first fight with Nate. The argument that is mostly used is how he "completely dominated" Nate before he gassed. If he could've kept that up, he'd have destroyed Nate.

That was basically the argument for Overeem for years pre Econoreem. He would completely dominate basically everyone the first round (or few minutes). If he wouldn't overwhelm someone, he'd gas and loses.

So in regards to logic and the sake of argument, what exactly is the difference between the two?

Overeem eventually changed his approach., which led to his current winning streak (most feel his old strategy would definately get him KTFO'd by JDS). Conor basically said he'd come better prepared this time and plans on doing what he was doing the first round (starts at 11:52):


Will he have the cardio to keep that up? We'll see.

Don't make sense, TS. People here don't take kindly to level headed posts about Conor.

 

[Iroh]

He dominated the 1st round against a guy who was on a boat doing shots 11 days before the fight...

Nate was rusty and had had shit timing cuz he did zero sparring or training for the fight lol.

Bisping walked off a movie set with a hang over and had a better performance than Diaz, you think Luke doesn't stand a chance against Bisping in a rematch?

 

[FlyingKimurabar]

Bisping walked off a movie set with a hang over and had a better performance than Diaz, you think Luke doesn't stand a chance against Bisping in a rematch?

Bisping basically landed the 2nd luckiest punch in UFC history and won via super fluke KO. Nate beat Conor down and choked him out.

 

[Iroh]

Bisping basically landed the 2nd luckiest punch in UFC history and won via super fluke KO. Nate beat Conor down and choked him out.

Left Hook Larry threw the punch he is best at and knew Luke had a tendency to drop his right hand, nothing lucky about it.

 

[FlyingKimurabar]

Left Hook Larry threw the punch he is best at and knew Luke had a tendency to drop his right hand, nothing lucky about it.

That is literally Bispings only actual KO win in his 10 year UFC career lol.

 

[Busa]

Why does know one talk about the fact that Conor was prepared to cut to 155 before their first meeting. That 1 simple thing is going to make this fight very different. We will know how much of a difference at the weigh ins. Last time he was 167 and change so they just called it 168. So likely he will weigh this time right at 170. Meaning he will cut weight to get to 170 and the weight difference won't mean squat it will be all about reach.

On the flip side both men will have better cardio. Conor will know how much he can give after fully training at the larger weight. I think he will have to conserve it because Nate will have full cardio and is going to put volume on Conor and do it early and often. This fight won't be anything like the last. Some how I wish both fighters win.

 

[ilfirin]

That is literally Bispings only actual KO win in his 10 year UFC career lol.

Yeah he's not exactly a knockout artist by any stretch of the imagination.

 

[13Seconds]

That is literally Bispings only actual KO win in his 10 year UFC career lol.

Ummmm so? Watch the fight and see how he actually sets the KO up. If you still can't understand it, then watch the post fight presser where Bisping explains how the KO happened. Doesn't matter if it's his first or tenth, luck had nothing to do with it.

 

[Reveen]

Or even Old Vitor...