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TLDR: Hard to sum up in a few sentences, but essentially a quick breakdown comparing the 2 fighter's records, resumes, achievements by the age of 29 (Jon's current age) - many similarities, so you guys pick, who was/is better at the age of 29?
Let's have a little look at the records of the opponents that they beat up to the age of 29. I respect that numbers can be deceiving, as some fighters have many losses but remain to be amazing fighters. Moreover some fighters can be 22-0 but only fought cans. Here's the breakdown anyway!
Jon Jones:
Bernard - 0-1
Pina - 0-0
Eduardo - 2-1
Verrett - 1-3
Porter - 2-0
Gabin - 2-1
Gusmao - 5-0
Bonnar - 12-4
O'Brien - 11-2
Hamill - 8-2
Vera - 11-4
Matyushenko - 24-4
Bader - 12-0
Rua - 19-4
Jackson - 32-8
Machida - 17-2
Evans 17-1-1
Belfort - 21-9
Sonnen - 28-12-1
Gustafsson - 15-1
Teixeira - 22-2
Cormier 15-0
St. Preux - 19-7
22-1 / in reality he is 22-0
Summary - Out of 22 victories there are easily 7 that are fantastic wins. He has never come into a fight as an underdog from what I can remember, other than possibly Rua, please don't let this fool you or sway you, because beating Glover, Alex, DC, Evans and Machida at that stage of their career is simply stunning!
Jon does have the odd opponent that you can snivel at e.g. OSP or Chael, but I cannot name one can on his record.
Fedor Emelianenko:
Lazarov - 0-0
Lagvilava - 1-2
Takada - 0-0
Arona - 2-0
Apostolov - 0-0
Schall - 5-2
Sobral - 19-2
Yanagisawa 24-22-9
Hasdell - 12–13–3 (1)
Haseman - 18-11
Schilt - 22-10-1
Herring - 20-7
Nogueira - 19-1-1
Valavičius - 4-2
Fujita - 9-3
Goodridge - 17-14-1
Nagata - 0-1
Coleman - 13-5
Randleman - 15-7
Ogawa - 7-0
Nogueira - 24-2-1 (1)
Kohsaka - 26-15-2
Filipovic - 16-2-2
23-1 (1) / but more like 23-0 (1)
Summary - It's understandable to be fighting other novices early on in your career, with 0-1 or 1-2 records, but facing Ogawa, Nagata, Valavicius, Kohsaka mid-way into your prime is a little poor.
On the other hand, Fedor does have his own version of Cormier-level wins, in Nogueira x2 and Filipovic could be seen as Fedor's Gustafsson (the guy who was supposed to be able to strike with him, and good enough to not get out-grappled).
Closing statements:
Let's be honest, it's razor close!
Both men unbeaten, both with 23 wins (unofficially).
Fedor did it quicker, little over 5 years to achieve 23 victories. Jones took almost 8 years.
Fedor is also very much undersized for his weight class - extra credit there!
Fedor has padded his record a tad with weaker opponents though. You would never see Jones fighting someone with a 4-2 record at this stage of his career. He's fighting the best in the world!
PRIDE had pretty much zero PED testing, does that come into play at all!?
Jones of course has had several legal issues, which you have to factor into his record and career. In those absences he may have been able to extend his record.
They both are very close in their notable/high-level victories. Jones with about 7 to 10, similar with Fedor.
I believe Jones is a tiny bit ahead of Fedor at this age, but Fedor continued his run for many more years. Can Jon do the same, is yet to be seen!
So... you decide!
Let's have a little look at the records of the opponents that they beat up to the age of 29. I respect that numbers can be deceiving, as some fighters have many losses but remain to be amazing fighters. Moreover some fighters can be 22-0 but only fought cans. Here's the breakdown anyway!
Jon Jones:
Bernard - 0-1
Pina - 0-0
Eduardo - 2-1
Verrett - 1-3
Porter - 2-0
Gabin - 2-1
Gusmao - 5-0
Bonnar - 12-4
O'Brien - 11-2
Hamill - 8-2
Vera - 11-4
Matyushenko - 24-4
Bader - 12-0
Rua - 19-4
Jackson - 32-8
Machida - 17-2
Evans 17-1-1
Belfort - 21-9
Sonnen - 28-12-1
Gustafsson - 15-1
Teixeira - 22-2
Cormier 15-0
St. Preux - 19-7
22-1 / in reality he is 22-0
Summary - Out of 22 victories there are easily 7 that are fantastic wins. He has never come into a fight as an underdog from what I can remember, other than possibly Rua, please don't let this fool you or sway you, because beating Glover, Alex, DC, Evans and Machida at that stage of their career is simply stunning!
Jon does have the odd opponent that you can snivel at e.g. OSP or Chael, but I cannot name one can on his record.
Fedor Emelianenko:
Lazarov - 0-0
Lagvilava - 1-2
Takada - 0-0
Arona - 2-0
Apostolov - 0-0
Schall - 5-2
Sobral - 19-2
Yanagisawa 24-22-9
Hasdell - 12–13–3 (1)
Haseman - 18-11
Schilt - 22-10-1
Herring - 20-7
Nogueira - 19-1-1
Valavičius - 4-2
Fujita - 9-3
Goodridge - 17-14-1
Nagata - 0-1
Coleman - 13-5
Randleman - 15-7
Ogawa - 7-0
Nogueira - 24-2-1 (1)
Kohsaka - 26-15-2
Filipovic - 16-2-2
23-1 (1) / but more like 23-0 (1)
Summary - It's understandable to be fighting other novices early on in your career, with 0-1 or 1-2 records, but facing Ogawa, Nagata, Valavicius, Kohsaka mid-way into your prime is a little poor.
On the other hand, Fedor does have his own version of Cormier-level wins, in Nogueira x2 and Filipovic could be seen as Fedor's Gustafsson (the guy who was supposed to be able to strike with him, and good enough to not get out-grappled).
Closing statements:
Let's be honest, it's razor close!
Both men unbeaten, both with 23 wins (unofficially).
Fedor did it quicker, little over 5 years to achieve 23 victories. Jones took almost 8 years.
Fedor is also very much undersized for his weight class - extra credit there!
Fedor has padded his record a tad with weaker opponents though. You would never see Jones fighting someone with a 4-2 record at this stage of his career. He's fighting the best in the world!
PRIDE had pretty much zero PED testing, does that come into play at all!?
Jones of course has had several legal issues, which you have to factor into his record and career. In those absences he may have been able to extend his record.
They both are very close in their notable/high-level victories. Jones with about 7 to 10, similar with Fedor.
I believe Jones is a tiny bit ahead of Fedor at this age, but Fedor continued his run for many more years. Can Jon do the same, is yet to be seen!
So... you decide!
