Is Fabricio Werdum really that good?

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Yes, he was able to submit both Fedor and Cain. Both extremely skilled heavy weights, but the submission he used was such a simple/easy one. Take Cody Mckenzie for example, he wasn't really that special at MMA he was just really good at doing his signature guiliotine. What do you guys think? Is Fabricio Werdum over rated?
 
Excellent grappler, average striker.
 
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Yes he is. Heavyweight is tough. UFC is tough. He did amazing things.
 
You compared Werdum to Cody McKenzie. Yes he is that good and yes you should leave.
 
Good enough to be the best heavyweight on the planet for a time.
 
Werdum has very good BJJ and some decent muay thai. but he is too slow and stiff in the striking.. thats why I knew Stipe would beat him, he is too fast for Werdum. if you think about a lot of the guys Werdum has lost too.. they were all guys with fast heavy hands and good boxing, Stipe, JDS, Arlovski, Sergei.

He is a good fighter, but he is beatable because his striking for me has never been good enough. If he can get the fight to the ground then thats a different story, but if he can't get it down and is forced to stand against a very good striker then he normally ends up losing.
 
Yes, he was able to submit both Fedor and Cain. Both extremely skilled heavy weights, but the submission he used was such a simple/easy one. Take Cody Mckenzie for example, he wasn't really that special at MMA he was just really good at doing his signature guiliotine. What do you guys think? Is Fabricio Werdum over rated?
Can you really not see a difference between the level of competition Cody is fighting compared to Werdum?
 
Did you just compare Werdum to Cody McKenzie......
 
Werdum's resume:

Fedor
Cain
Nogueira
Gonzaga x2
Hunt
Roy
Overeem
TRT Bigfoot
Browne

No the praise he gets is pretty warranted I'd say
 
He lost his last fight, he's shite and got exposed, now post embarrassing GIFs please
 
Yea hes a good fighter, but he has holes in his game that Stipe was able to capitalize on and others will be able to in the future. I remember when he first started being recognized as a competent striker, that he had the tendency to march forward with his chin up. Its surprising that they didn't work to correct that
 
He most certainly didn't pull off easy submissions on the best fighters of all time in his weight class. If it was that simple, then it would have been done before he did it. He's the most talented submission grappler in the history of the heavyweight division by a very long way. The most questionable moment of his career was when he kept falling to his back against Overeem because he didn't have the confidence in his striking skills. If you watch him vs Travis Browne, he clearly worked hard and got his striking game right, he was playing with Browne in that fight.

Age caught up with him maybe, or just a bad gameplan in his most recent fight.
 
It's not the technique that needs to be amazing, it's the set-up. An armbar isn't an especially mind-blowing technique but watching a master grappler setting one up 3 steps ahead of the execution absolutely IS amazing.
 
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