2017 Election Night in America (Virginia and NJ)

[SaiWa]

I never mentioned "white genocide". Why are you putting words in my mouth? Oh, because you have no argument.

The left wants to create a socialist utopia, and they figure the only way they can do that is with mass immigration, as immigration from developing/third world nations is an importation of Democrat voters. Democrats literally talk about looking forward to the day whites become the minority in the USA and how much that will change the USA for the better.

Then why are they so supportive of mass immigration and amnesty? Because they know it means more votes for them.

In your mind, those young voters aren't the descendants of non-white immigrants who the left wanted in the country. /facepalm

Some priceless Rod logic, as usual. You've somehow concluded because I said Democrats' ideas are so shit, that means I think Republicans are good at governing.

Republicans are a joke. So are Democrats.

Ignores the fact that the nation known as the United States of America has been solely built on the backs of immigrants and their descendants. Every new wave of immigrants were vilified as foreigners here to steal their jobs and blah blah blah by "natives" and or their forefathers who had arrived earlier.

I know a viet engineer who's a hardcore republican and spouts the same bullshit as you do. Got into a heated discussion and about the immigration ban and he even went on about how his parents (who came over as refugees) were better vetted back in the 70's and that's why its different now. I laughed at him and told him his parents were even less welcomed back in the 70s. Almost 70% of US Americans did not want Vietnamese refugees back in the days. His parents still made it over (thanks to Vietnam War) and here he is spouting the same bullshit you are doing.

The irony behind your words are so deliciously and blatantly ignorant... oooohhh... I love it.

 

[goldennirvana]

Well, you keep saying that socialism cant happen until whites are replaced with non-whites

No I'm not. Why are you lying?

while ignoring the fact that communism was invented in Europe

Ah yes. By those white people... Catholics, I think. Or was it Protestants? Hmmmmm...

White genocide.

You have no argument, Rod. You do realise that, right? lol

 

[Rational Poster]

You clearly don't understand what 'mass immigration' is. Mass immigration is the migration of large amounts of people. The USA is taking in 675,000 legal immigrants, annually. That's mass immigration. You seem to be confusing 'mass immigration' with 'unlimited immigration'.



You just said above you're for "limited legal immigration". Now you're saying you're for amnesty. That's called a contradiction. If you're for amnesty, you're for illegal immigration, and you're not for 'limited' immigration, either.



Meaningless rhetoric.

Don't compare European immigrants moving to the USA 100-150 years ago to third world immigrants moving to the USA in the 21st century. They are in no way comparable.

675,000 is 0.002% of our population, and that's the max.

Are Chinese 3rd world? Viet 3rd world?

I'm not for illegal immigration. But it happened, I'm not going to cry over spilled milk. I'd like to deal with it the best way possible, and that's an amnesty program which we've had multiple over the past 100 years.

 

[goldennirvana]

Ignores the fact that the nation known as the United States of America has been solely built on the backs of immigrants and their descendants.

Overwhelmingly European immigrants (and their descendants). Don't compare European immigration of 100+ years ago, to the mass migration of third worlders into the USA today. They are totally different types of immigrants and two totally different eras.

I know a viet engineer who's a hardcore republican and spouts the same bullshit as you do. Got into a heated discussion and about the immigration ban and he even went on about how his parents (who came over as refugees) were better vetted back in the 70's and that's why its different now. I laughed at him and told him his parents were even less welcomed back in the 70s. Almost 70% of US Americans did not want Vietnamese refugees back in the days. His parents still made it over (thanks to Vietnam War) and here he is spouting the same bullshit you are doing.

Is this Vietnamese dude specifically against Muslim immigrants, or just immigrants as a whole?

The irony behind your words are so deliciously and blatantly ignorant... oooohhh... I love it.

More meaningless rhetoric. Yawn.

 

[Rod1]

No I'm not. Why are you lying?

You said that mass immigration is part of the socialist utopia plan.

Ah yes. By those white people... Catholics, I think. Or was it Protestants? Hmmmmm...

Engels was Protestant, Stalin was Orthodox, Marx was Ashkenazim, so was Lenin and Trotsky.

Pretty much all communist leaders were either taught in western universities or western modelled universities.

You have no argument, Rod. You do realise that, right? lol

I realize that.

 

[goldennirvana]

675,000 is 0.002% of our population, and that's the max.

????????????

That's annually. Again, what is your point? You're not making one. Just the typical desperate nonsense.

Are Chinese 3rd world? Viet 3rd world?

Developing.

I'm not for illegal immigration.

Yes you are. You support amnesty. You can't say you're against illegal immigration and then say you're in support of amnesty. If amnesty happens, it only encourages more illegal immigration. And the illegals who did come, get to stay. Therefore, you're for illegal immigration.

I'd like to deal with it the best way possible, and that's an amnesty program which we've had multiple over the past 100 years.

Then you're for illegal immigration.

And that's not the best way possible. Deportation is. If you're against illegal immigration, then you'd be for deportation.

 

[goldennirvana]

You said that mass immigration is part of the socialist utopia plan.

For the modern left, yes. They literally admit it. That doesn't mean whites have to be completely replaced.

Engels was Protestant, Stalin was Orthodox, Marx was Ashkenazim, so was Lenin and Trotsky.

All those... white people. Lots of white Catholics. And protestants. Can't forget the Protestants.

Pretty much all communist leaders were either taught in western universities or western modelled universities.

Not relevant.

I realize that.

Great! LOL

 

[SaiWa]

Overwhelmingly European immigrants (and their descendants). Don't compare European immigration of 100+ years ago, to the mass migration of third worlders into the USA today. They are totally different types of immigrants and two totally different eras.

Is this Vietnamese dude specifically against Muslim immigrants, or just immigrants as a whole?

More meaningless rhetoric. Yawn.

Ahhh cause most of them were "white"? Read your history. They were hated on for being Irish or Germanic or Italian or whatever country they were from back then cause they were a different type of "white". Its the same hateful bullshit until the next mass of immigrants from specific nations comes along and the entire process is repeated.

That's what ironic. Your forefathers were vilified and spitted on for being different but their descendants are spouting the same hateful bullshit their ancestors faced when they first arrived in the US. Awesome sauce of irony.

But hey stay ignorant and hateful and keep on pretending our collective insidious goals is to come over and fuck you all out of existence... lol

 

[Rational Poster]

????????????

That's annually. Again, what is your point? You're not making one. Just the typical desperate nonsense.



Developing.



Yes you are. You support amnesty. You can't say you're against illegal immigration and then say you're in support of amnesty. If amnesty happens, it only encourages more illegal immigration. And the illegals who did come, get to stay. Therefore, you're for illegal immigration.



Then you're for illegal immigration.

And that's not the best way possible. Deportation is. If you're against illegal immigration, then you'd be for deportation.

Native population growth FAR exceeds 0.002% immigration annually. FAR.

China is developing? The #1 or #2 Economy is developing?

Our population naturally increases at .7% annually. Immigration is 0.002% annually

It's basic math. There is nothing mass about it. There is nothing intentionally about it. People want to come to America and you're not going to stop that.

Illegal immigration is at a standstill now, we've greatly improved our border security in the wake of the illegal immigration crisis in the 80-00's and 9/11. The illegals living in the shadows not paying taxes for the past 10 years need to be brought into the light and brought in.

The time for amnesty is now, backed with the continued vigilance of our border agencies.

 

[Rod1]

All those... white people. Lots of white Catholics. And protestants. Can't forget the Protestants.

Virginia Gonzalez was catholic, as to why there werent more catholics, i guess its because communism started in a protestant country.

Engels was protestant.

 

[AnGrYcRoW]

I was just pointing out how the modern left are anti-democracy. They support mass third world immigration simply because it means more votes for them.

You've yet to provide a shred of evidence the left is anti-democracy .
even if you are correct about this Grand immigration conspiracy of yours it would still be democracy in action

 

[AnGrYcRoW]

Native population growth FAR exceeds 0.002% immigration annually. FAR.

China is developing? The #1 or #2 Economy is developing?

Our population naturally increases at .7% annually. Immigration is 0.002% annually

It's basic math. There is nothing mass about it. There is nothing intentionally about it. People want to come to America and you're not going to stop that.

Illegal immigration is at a standstill now, we've greatly improved our border security in the wake of the illegal immigration crisis in the 80-00's and 9/11. The illegals living in the shadows not paying taxes for the past 10 years need to be brought into the light and brought in.

The time for amnesty is now, backed with the continued vigilance of our border agencies.

Facts that contradict this guy's Position will be ignored I can guarantee it

 

[Rational Poster]

Facts that contradict this guy's Position will be ignored I can guarantee it

I will persist till he concedes, ignores me, or gets banned. That's a promise.

Vote for me.

 

[Big Nasty Edison]

Native population growth FAR exceeds 0.002% immigration annually. FAR.

China is developing? The #1 or #2 Economy is developing?

Our population naturally increases at .7% annually. Immigration is 0.002% annually

It's basic math. There is nothing mass about it. There is nothing intentionally about it. People want to come to America and you're not going to stop that.

Illegal immigration is at a standstill now, we've greatly improved our border security in the wake of the illegal immigration crisis in the 80-00's and 9/11. The illegals living in the shadows not paying taxes for the past 10 years need to be brought into the light and brought in.

The time for amnesty is now, backed with the continued vigilance of our border agencies.

You're attempting to use logic and facts against an emotionally unstable person who is only using their irrational fears as a an argument.

 

[Rational Poster]

You're attempting to use logic and facts against an emotionally unstable person who is only using their irrational fears as a an argument.

I WILL PERSIST

 

[Limbo Pete]

When did I mention "white genocide"? When you leftists respond like this, all it does is prove how clueless you are to the points being made. You have to literally put words in my mouth, because you can't form a logical counter-argument.

???

 

[goldennirvana]

Ahhh cause most of them were "white"?

No, because they were migrating to an underpopulated, underdeveloped country that needed massive manpower to populate & develop it. There was no welfare system back then either, so immigrants knew they had to get a job so there was never any thought in their minds that they could just live off the tax payer. The USA today is already populated (overpopulated, in fact) and highly developed. Do not compare the two types of immigrants. They are totally different.

Never jump to conclusions and never compare third world immigration into the USA today to European immigration into the USA 100-150 years ago, little boy. There's your lessons for the day.

Read your history. They were hated on for being Irish or Germanic or Italian or whatever country they were from back then cause they were a different type of "white". Its the same hateful bullshit until the next mass of immigrants from specific nations comes along and the entire process is repeated.

That's what ironic. Your forefathers were vilified and spitted on for being different but their descendants are spouting the same hateful bullshit their ancestors faced when they first arrived in the US. Awesome sauce of irony.

But hey stay ignorant and hateful and keep on pretending our collective insidious goals is to come over and fuck you all out of existence... lol

Nonsensical irrelevant babble.

 

[weed]

is @goldennirvana trying to tell us Americans we don't know the history of our homeland again?

 

[goldennirvana]

China is developing? The #1 or #2 Economy is developing?

India has the 7th largest economy in the world. Would you call that a developed nation? You don't understand what 'developing' is. India is actually third world, far worse off than China, but has a larger economy than Canada, Italy, Australia and other Western nations, but based on your logic, India is more developed than them. Seriously, no wonder you spam gifs all the time. You REALLY are dumb.

It's basic math. There is nothing mass about it.

675,000 per year, plus illegal immigration (which Democrats support) is mass immigration. You don't understand what 'mass immigration' means.

There is nothing intentionally about it.

You're really babbling.

People want to come to America and you're not going to stop that.

I'm not, no, because I don't have the power. The people in power can stop them, but they choose not to.

Illegal immigration is at a standstill now, we've greatly improved our border security in the wake of the illegal immigration crisis in the 80-00's and 9/11. The illegals living in the shadows not paying taxes for the past 10 years need to be brought into the light and brought in.

... and turned into citizens, according to you, because you support illegal immigration.

The time for amnesty is now, backed with the continued vigilance of our border agencies.

You support illegal immigration.

 

[goldennirvana]

You've yet to provide a shred of evidence the left is anti-democracy .

The left supports the mass importation of left-wing voters, thus completely undermining democracy which is supposed to be all about choice. Democrats regularly boast about how they'll never lose another election in the future due to the change in America's demographics, which has only happened because of mass immigration. And they support amnesty for illegal immigrants, because they know that will greatly benefit them in the voting booth.

I've explained this in almost every post I've made in this thread... but still you don't understand it (or at least that's what you're making out). lol

even if you are correct about this Grand immigration conspiracy of yours it would still be democracy in action

Democracy would essentially no longer exist because of the mass importation of Democrat voters which extinguishes the opposition in elections. That is why Democrats can't wait for the day whites become the minority in the USA because they know that will totally change the political landscape in their favour. They would NOT however support the mass importation of loads of Republican voters and would do everything in their power to stop that. Democrats are despicable hypocrites and I've explained in the clearest possible terms why & how they are anti-democracy. You can keep on ignoring the facts, but it changes nothing.