** 2016 Election Day Discussion **

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Schadenfreude bonanza in this thread. Love it. If not for their condescending patronizing smugness I'd feel bad for the far left.
 
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That is some funny horror shit we need a name for that monster in the Middle holding the Dildo
 
I was thinking specifically of cases where the Taleban infiltrate western countries.

Ah yeah gotcha, Taleban don't do that it is the Soudi funded terror groups who do that infiltration, Maybe the Taleban are to dumb to do some infiltrating after all they are already busy butchering their own people.
 
These people are not afraid of white men in white hoods walking into their community and setting their homes on fire.

I reckon they are afraid of an end to the culture of receiving special treatment as a result to belonging to a minority group. An end to people catering to your will due to the fear of being labelled a racist or a sexist.

Every time that people sense that a bit of power is being taken away from them, there is fear. But we must all acknowledge that undeserved power over the other, on all sides, whether it is in favour of blacks or whites, male or female, such power has no justification. It is surely a comforting thought to be able to wear your status as a minority as a shield, much like it once was to walk around as a person belonging to the majority, but ultimately it only serves the purpose of creating division between ourselves, putting up barriers to where men and women alike could otherwise conduct dialogue as equals.

I hope the Leftist end their shame campaign on social media its sickening and they have caused riots already because of that attitude,

My social values a more liberal and leans left more but all this white guilt,racist cops,cultural appropriation has gone to far it is so ridiculous.
 
I don't know what these Minorities are so afraid off, Bullies? Violence I am Asian and If I am in the USA and got harassed by White Supremacists or anyone if my life is threatened I will just shoot them.

I don't give a fuck about their views as long as they don't threaten me or imposed that on me.

I think you are misguided.
"Schools across US report racial bias incidents since Trump election"

"The morning after the election, leaflets from the Ku Klux Klan showed up in a neighborhood in Birmingham, Alabama. At Central Texas University in San Marcos, police were investigating who posted fliers Thursday around campus urging the formation of “tar and feather vigilante squads” and threatening to “arrest and torture” campus diversity advocates.

In Durham, North Carolina, two walls were spray-painted with the statement “Black lives don’t matter and neither does your vote.”"

Etc.

If you get mobbed, do you think you can shoot them all?
 
I think you are misguided.
"Schools across US report racial bias incidents since Trump election"

"The morning after the election, leaflets from the Ku Klux Klan showed up in a neighborhood in Birmingham, Alabama. At Central Texas University in San Marcos, police were investigating who posted fliers Thursday around campus urging the formation of “tar and feather vigilante squads” and threatening to “arrest and torture” campus diversity advocates.

In Durham, North Carolina, two walls were spray-painted with the statement “Black lives don’t matter and neither does your vote.”"

Etc.

If you get mobbed, do you think you can shoot them all?

Yes!! I can shoot them all.
 
I hope the Leftist end their shame campaign on social media its sickening and they have caused riots already because of that attitude,

My social values a more liberal and leans left more but all this white guilt,racist cops,cultural appropriation has gone to far it is so ridiculous.

One does not have to go against liberalism as an idea, to go against the madness which has seized the narrative within liberal circles in recent times.

I believe that it is more liberal to be against taboos and to be against the limitation of free speech, than to be in favour of taking away people's rights and preventing them from speaking out.

Again, I must raise the point that these people are not liberal by nature, but rather socialist and authoritarian.
 
I hope the Leftist end their shame campaign on social media its sickening and they have caused riots already because of that attitude,

My social values a more liberal and leans left more but all this white guilt,racist cops,cultural appropriation has gone to far it is so ridiculous.
Again, I say you're misguided. Social media is the domain of the Alt-Right and it is how they have been so successful in this election cycle. Their campaign of hate and fear is truly sickening.
 
One does not have to go against liberalism as an idea, to go against the madness which has seized the narrative within liberal circles in recent times.

I believe that it is more liberal to be against taboos and to be against the limitation of free speech, than to be in favour of taking away people's rights and preventing them from speaking out.

Again, I must raise the point that these people are not liberal by nature, but rather socialist and authoritarian.


Good point I also don't get why some liberals hate guns I consider my self Liberal and I want a ton of guns, Liberal,Liberty etc,
 
Again, I say you're misguided. Social media is the domain of the Alt-Right and it is how they have been so successful in this election cycle. Their campaign of hate and fear is truly sickening.


I don't like those Alt right shit either..

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Good point I also don't get why some liberals hate guns I consider my self Liberal and I want a ton of guns, Liberal,Liberty etc,

An authoritarian socialist might have ideas that can be considered liberal, but it is the manner in which he or she prefers to pursue them, that separates the two. When you have an idea, but do not possess the ability to properly argue in favour of it, you wish to see your ideas executed through force instead of dialogue.

I would, like probably all people, wish to see a society where we did not need guns, as far as using them to protect our property and our closest ones from danger. But banning them is not the answer. Taking away a person's right, sweeping the problem under the carpet and acting as if it does not exist, this does not solve anything. The people have not truly learned that their lives would be better off without weapons, they've only learned that if they possess weapons, they will be punished by the State.
 
An authoritarian socialist might have ideas that can be considered liberal, but it is the manner in which he or she prefers to pursue them, that separates the two. When you have an idea, but do not possess the ability to properly argue in favour of it, you wish to see your ideas executed through force instead of dialogue.

I would, like probably all people, wish to see a society where we did not need guns, as far as using them to protect our property and our closest ones from danger. But banning them is not the answer. Taking away a person's right, sweeping the problem under the carpet and acting as if it does not exist, this does not solve anything. The people have not truly learned that their lives would be better off without weapons, they've only learned that if they possess weapons, they will be punished by the State.


Well said,

I can't consider a government forcing things on people like banning religion as liberal, I am a Militant Atheist but I don't think banning religion is worth the division it will cause mostlikely it will just push religous people underground just get radicalized,

In my country we don't have something like the 2nd amendment, just today our president has threatened to suspend the writ of habaes corpus, they say this is their response to the rise in murders.

But we no longer trust the government here they are planning something like Communist take over.

From what I read it seems the BLM movment have poisoned the left and divided them. I just does not make sense that a movement was started because of criminals who got shot by the police after violently assaulting other people.

I know I am going to get flack from the African Americans here in this forum because of what I posted but I will stand by it.
 
I think you are misguided.
"Schools across US report racial bias incidents since Trump election"

"The morning after the election, leaflets from the Ku Klux Klan showed up in a neighborhood in Birmingham, Alabama. At Central Texas University in San Marcos, police were investigating who posted fliers Thursday around campus urging the formation of “tar and feather vigilante squads” and threatening to “arrest and torture” campus diversity advocates.

In Durham, North Carolina, two walls were spray-painted with the statement “Black lives don’t matter and neither does your vote.”"

Etc.

If you get mobbed, do you think you can shoot them all?

Hey, great article with much EVIDENCE
You post leaflets by the KKK that could have been PLANTED by clinton supporters and this is the most likely scenario


But all of the actual evidence on tape seems to be violence by clinton supporters against trump FROM THE ARTICLE YOU POSTED BUT ARE TOO STUPID TO READ
Your stupidity and lack of evidence is laughable. Go to the heavies.


The words — and in some cases violence — cut both ways.

A videotaped assault in Chicago showing black men beating a white man as onlookers scream “You voted Trump” gained traction among conservative social media users after being broadcast by local television. The teenager who shot the video and her father told WFLD-TV that the dispute began over a minor traffic accident and escalated with bystanders’ shouts about the election, which was not a factor in the fight.

In Louisiana, a university football coach disciplined four players in response to a locker room video showing members of the team dancing and singing the lyrics of a profane anti-Trump rap song. Anti-Trump protests have swept U.S. cities, with one turning violent in Portland, Oregon, as demonstrators smashed windows and set trash afire Thursday night.

Anti-Trump protests have erupted this week in cities including Philadelphia, Atlanta, Chicago and New York.
 
Hey, great article with much EVIDENCE
You post leaflets by the KKK that could have been PLANTED by clinton supporters and this is the most likely scenario


But all of the actual evidence on tape seems to be violence by clinton supporters against trump FROM THE ARTICLE YOU POSTED BUT ARE TOO STUPID TO READ
Your stupidity and lack of evidence is laughable. Go to the heavies.


The words — and in some cases violence — cut both ways.

A videotaped assault in Chicago showing black men beating a white man as onlookers scream “You voted Trump” gained traction among conservative social media users after being broadcast by local television. The teenager who shot the video and her father told WFLD-TV that the dispute began over a minor traffic accident and escalated with bystanders’ shouts about the election, which was not a factor in the fight.

In Louisiana, a university football coach disciplined four players in response to a locker room video showing members of the team dancing and singing the lyrics of a profane anti-Trump rap song. Anti-Trump protests have swept U.S. cities, with one turning violent in Portland, Oregon, as demonstrators smashed windows and set trash afire Thursday night.

Anti-Trump protests have erupted this week in cities including Philadelphia, Atlanta, Chicago and New York.
I think the reaction on both sides has been unsurprising and depressing and I am not surprised you miss my point. There were similar reactions to the Obama victory of 2008. If the entire dialogue during the election hadn't been so ridiculous, we might not have this issue. This guy has it right but it was just as bad on the part of the Alt-right, they just lied better.
 
Well said,

I can't consider a government forcing things on people like banning religion as liberal, I am a Militant Atheist but I don't think banning religion is worth the division it will cause mostlikely it will just push religous people underground just get radicalized,

In my country we don't have something like the 2nd amendment, just today our president has threatened to suspend the writ of habaes corpus, they say this is their response to the rise in murders.

But we no longer trust the government here they are planning something like Communist take over.

From what I read it seems the BLM movment have poisoned the left and divided them. I just does not make sense that a movement was started because of criminals who got shot by the police after violently assaulting other people.

I know I am going to get flack from the African Americans here in this forum because of what I posted but I will stand by it.

I will say that the "rot" within the liberal circles started long before the Black Lives Matter movement. BLM and such movements are merely symptoms of the disease.

I believe that everything comes down to the incompetence of the individuals involved. Whether we want to admit it or not, there has been a steep decline to the level of intellect on display by people who deem themselves to be liberal, nowadays. Jackasses of yesteryear, are considered heroes of today. Instead of pursuing pure, uncompromising logic as to what it entails to be in favour of human liberty (which includes the acceptance of harsh realities, at times), these people follow their emotions and "gut instinct" while employing a smug, morally superior attitude of innately knowing right from wrong.

The less you comprehend about the world and the more you live in a bubble, the less capable you become to pursue your ideology through any other method than demonizing the opposition and resorting to violence and outrage.

In a way, the weakness of the American right-wingers for the past two decades, due to their pandering towards Evangelists, has allowed the American left-wing people to grow soft, intellectually. No longer are they given the free pass of arguing against tenets within the Bible to display their unquestionable "intellectual superiority", but now they are forced to argue against cold, hard scientific data which goes directly against their principles and expose many of their ideas as naive and buffoonish.
 
I think the reaction on both sides has been unsurprising and depressing and I am not surprised you miss my point. There were similar reactions to the Obama victory of 2008. If the entire dialogue during the election hadn't been so ridiculous, we might not have this issue. This guy has it right but it was just as bad on the part of the Alt-right, they just lied better.


no there wasn't

there were zero riots when obama won or fake stories about blacks attacking whites (enough real ones) or school walkouts
there were riots, walkouts, media protests, fake stories about trump supporters doing bad things, when trump won

imagine a fucking school walkout because obama won???

the facts are just so overwhelmingly against you I suggest you post on another topic because anyone will destroy your shit
 
I will say that the "rot" within the liberal circles started long before the Black Lives Matter movement. BLM and such movements are merely symptoms of the disease.

I believe that everything comes down to the incompetence of the individuals involved. Whether we want to admit it or not, there has been a steep decline to the level of intellect on display by people who deem themselves to be liberal, nowadays. Jackasses of yesteryear, are considered heroes of today. Instead of pursuing pure, uncompromising logic as to what it entails to be in favour of human liberty (which includes the acceptance of harsh realities, at times), these people follow their emotions and "gut instinct" while employing a smug, morally superior attitude of innately knowing right from wrong.

The less you comprehend about the world and the more you live in a bubble, the less capable you become to pursue your ideology through any other method than demonizing the opposition and resorting to violence and outrage.

In a way, the weakness of the American right-wingers for the past two decades, due to their pandering towards Evangelists, has allowed the American left-wing people to grow soft, intellectually. No longer are they given the free pass of arguing against tenets within the Bible to display their unquestionable "intellectual superiority", but now they are forced to argue against cold, hard scientific data which goes directly against their principles and expose many of their ideas as naive and buffoonish.

It's funny how everything you say in this post applies equally well to the Right; you just need to substitute a couple of buzz words. I find it interesting that the regulars here find it so easy to ignore truth and context.
 
It's funny how everything you say in this post applies equally well to the Right; you just need to substitute a couple of buzz words. I find it interesting that the regulars here find it so easy to ignore truth and context.

The American Right have been jackasses since the 80's atleast, when they started Bible-thumping. The recent changes to their program, mostly to do with downplaying the role of religion in favour of more culturally relevant themes, have been nothing but a positive. Even Donald Trump is a significant improvement over George W. Bush, as far as I'm concerned, or Sarah Palin.

Admit it buddy, the competition in recent times has been more stiff than in the past.
 
Lmao @ trumps transition team consisting of a climate change denier....

America is gonna fuckin burn, and I cannot wait to watch.
 
The American Right have been jackasses since the 80's atleast, when they started Bible-thumping. The recent changes to their program, mostly to do with downplaying the role of religion in favour of more culturally relevant themes, have been nothing but a positive. Even Donald Trump is a significant improvement over George W. Bush, as far as I'm concerned, or Sarah Palin.

Admit it buddy, the competition in recent times has been more stiff than in the past.
Do you mean the competition for who can be the biggest bozo? I agree. Look at the post prior to mine. The problem, as I see it, is the ease with which social media is being subverted to exploit confirmation bias with lies and half-truths. While the Left may be more vocal on TV, on social media, the right has gone full Animal Farm double-speak and the left has no idea how bad it's gotten. Like I said in another thread, Brexit and the election of Trump are only the beginning. France will soon follow suit, and they will get a big boost in Canada the moment Trudeau makes a single serious blunder. My point is that not everyone who supports the right is an extremist, but neither is everyone on the Left. Until we find a way to come together, the extremist voices on both sides will hold sway.

So far, the ability to avoid scapegoating and spreading false propaganda seems more of an attribute of the center left, but if centrists of both sides can't somehow overcome the loudest voices with reason, nothing much is going to change anytime soon.
 
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