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Discussion in 'Grappling Technique' started by jlowe, Oct 13, 2016.

  1. jack36767 Brown Belt

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    Very well put, be prepared to get called Kyle or accused of saying Burroughs wouldn't have won without the bye.. because.. logic I guess
     
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    Interesting, how taxed was his CNS from the matches he had earlier? Compared to his schedule last year when he was wrestling 86 with guys a legit 15 lbs heavier it didn't look too intense at all. In fact last year he got stronger as the tournament went on, took a monster like J'Den to the final seconds of the third match. If it was his CNS that was holding him back, why didn't he take a stimulant like coffee in the 5 hours break he had?
     
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    Hey Kyle, we could just scrap the trials and have the winner of Nationals go to worlds, oh wait... Jordan beat you there as well that doesn't work. Or maybe we could give the guy that cries the most the spot, you'd be a shoe in for gold then!
     
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    Hey Jordan why does your Dake hating make you ignore the point everyone is making.. or the fact both Cox and Dake had to wrestle through the tournament, with neither having a bye, but hey ignore facts for your point
     
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    Because that point is nullified but the results at Nationals when we both wrestled through the tournament, I still won.
     
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    You are literally retarded
     
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    And you're literally a crybaby, Jordan won with and without the bye which shows that at least with these 2, the bye isn't a real advantage.
     
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    I literally want to know how stating the flaws in the system or that fatigue was a factor whether irregardless of Burroughs would have won or not is me defending Dake. Or making making excuses for him. My main issue has been with you trying to say it wasn't a factor. You keep arguing with something everyone here who's actually trained at a high level knows
    Like I said, you keep making up bullshit because you're incapable of basic reading comprehension
     
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    I should have realized Voodoo was simply dumb when I stated how much I dislike the shit Dake does and he then acted like I was Dake
     
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    I am stating that it is much too simplistic to state that it is an advantage to sit out. Listen to the announcers in the Fix vs Micic match from a few years ago:

    3:39-4:25

     
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    It would be foolish to try and ASSUME the level of fatigue that DAKE was EXPERINCING

    Only DAKE himself can answer that

    Your point actually reinforces the sentiment that I am trying to convey... There are so many variables... It is not black and white... If it were; many more people would have the formula

    At 86 how much weight did Dake have to cut?.. Could cutting weight this time round have actually negatively impacted his cardio and capacity to recover?.. Who Knows???

    Only DAKE himself can answer that... Not us Armchair Athletes

    But one thing is clear... The bye system aims to present an advantage to the wrestler receiving the bye... I'm sure if you surveyed the participants of the WTT... Most would say it was an advantage to revive a bye... Physically and mentally

    Look at the Holloway Aldo fight... Armchair Athletes were criticising Aldo's game plan, because he never threw his patented leg kicks... Andre Pederneiras comes out and says he had an leg injury... Now the
    Armchair Athletes are saying, so typical... The Brazilians always make excuses
     
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    Crazy... Remember how devastated Dake was after the loss at the Open?.. He knew the value of the bye... Its a consensus... Not just our opinions
     
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    Almost unanimous consensus. This is like arguing the earth is flat.
     
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    If you're saying we just don't know then I completely agree with you, there are a lot of variables and we don't know if it drained him or if it warmed him up and sharpened his mental state before the best of 3. Just like we don't know if sitting all day and coming in cold made Jordan lethargic and slow or if it had a benefit for him.

    The bye system is there to prevent a fluke with an all ready proven international threat, it's definitely not perfect and I'd be fine with them wrestling a week later. There have been enough examples in Jr. and Sr. of wrestlers winning the mini tournament and then winning the best of 3 that I believe we've sent our best rep.
     
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    Part of it also was him believing so much that he could beat Jordan when they both came in wrestling through a tournament only to realize that no, it really didn't matter, Jordan was actually just a bit better all those times.
     
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    Sadulaev murdering his way through 97. Dude is just unreal. God-tier strength.
     
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    Wow, sounds like he had a dogfight in the finals match
     
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    Jesus Christ this guy he wrestled was massive. Seems like Russia just grows these 97 KG hammers on trees.

     
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    Holy backtrack voodoo

    and wow Saduleav got saved
     
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    How did the Red dude not get exposure points on that first TD?
     
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