12 Angry Men (1957) | Page 6

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Was he Guilty or Not Guilty?

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  1. shadow_priest_x Titanium Belt

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    I'm not sure what kind of security courthouses had at the time, but regardless, I would still think there were LAWS in place that said, hey, don't bring weapons into a courthouse.

    So how believable is it that a juror would not only bring a weapon in but then make sure that 11 other people knew he had done so?

    I'm not saying it kills the movie or anything, but it does require some significant suspension of disbelief.
     
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    Why were you certain that you'd hate it? And under what circumstances did you watch it?
     
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    This. I never rate anything a 10. It's a unicorn.

    9.5 is basically my 10 though I have a hard time even rating a movie that highly. It's take a hell of a lot to get me above an 8.5 actually.

    6 to 8.5 is where the vast majority of movies end up for me.
     
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    I haven't seen it since 1997, but I remember liking it when I saw it. It was also well-received by critics, with a 92% on RT.

    I actually think I might watch it tonight to compare.
     
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    For me not so much. I can remember my grandparents living in a rural area and even back in the 70's and 80's it wouldn't be uncommon to see people driving a pick up with a shotgun on a rack in the rear window and everyone in that community carries some sort of knife in their pocket. So for me its not that hard to believe at all, especially for 1950's. Nobody even heard of a terrorist or a spree shooter or a metal detector man. A completely different reality.

    My grandparents didn't even lock the doors on their house, ever. I never remember a day or a night when they were locked, even if nobody was home.
     
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    "Grumpy" is my favorite among the angry men.
     
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    Yea pretty much. There have been thousands of movies made so I'm going to say there are probably 20 movies ever made I would rate as the 9.5/10 which is pretty much 10/10 for anyone else. The number is low for sure. Maybe more than 20 but its not a high number considering the volumes and volumes of movies that exist.
     
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    Yeah, I get that society was different. I'm just saying, you know, this was a courthouse. I'm sure that even in the 50s there were concerns that a family member of a murder victim might attack a defendant or someone could try to attack a judge.
     
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    Yea but the people of the time wouldn't think of it that way. You are thinking from the lens of history. People of certain areas and time periods all carried some sort of knife in their pocket. The person carrying it might be in some sort of violation but they wouldn't think much of it because it is basically a part of their attire. Plus nobody would ever even know because as I said, there was no heavy security at the courthouse back then. It would be inconceivable if you went back in time and told someone that a person might walk into the courthouse and kill everyone. They would look at you like you were a martian.
     
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    i think the 12 strong men win though
     
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    Let me ask you this, do you think that someone also wouldn't think twice about carrying a gun into a courthouse?
     
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    I watched it expecting it to be a boring old movie.

    It's pretty captivating and holds up.
     
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    A gun is different but everyone, especially in rural communities, carried a knife in their pocket everywhere they went. My father still does.
     
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    I'm going to leave it alone after this post, but I will point out that we're not talking about a regular pocket knife here, but a switchblade (which it's pointed out in the movie is illegal to own).
     
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    Yep, I get it. I'm just saying its not that much of a stretch for me. Many people carried knives and at the time the laws and security were lax. As long as you didn't cause any problems you could walk into a courthouse, do your business, and walk out and nobody would even know you had a knife. Cops weren't doing stop and frisks like the gestapo and there were no metal detectors.
     
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    Speaking of switchblades, I've actually taken specific notice of the fact that you almost NEVER see them in movies anymore. I wonder why that is.

    Switchblades are still manufactured. Butterfly knives are another kind of knife that used to be popular in film and have disappeared.
     
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    All right, I'm about to check out the '97 remake.
     
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    One of the best films ever made, imo. Great stage plays make great movies.

    I'm curious about the list of movies you've compiled that all take place in one location. Off the top of my head, I can probably only name a few.

    Cube
    127 Hours
    that Ryan Reynolds movie where he's buried alive
    Panic Room (I think)
     
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    A movie based on dialogue and developing nuanced differences between the characters, which presents a moral question but doesn't preach at you?

    Ain't nobody got time fo dat.
     
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    By the way, if you liked 12 Angry Men, and are currently watching movies that take place in one location, I'd suggest Conspiracy with Kenneth Branagh. It might be the gold standard for that sort of film.
     
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