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Final Rehab said:
Sperm is human life
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No it isn't. This is where the argument becomes dishonest. When sperm and egg meet and begin development, a unique person is formed.

When you cum in a sock. A baby doesn't emerge 8 months later...
 
oleDirtyBast4rd said:
No it isn't. This is where the argument becomes dishonest. When sperm and egg meet and begin development, a unique person is formed.

When you cum in a sock. A baby doesn't emerge 8 months later...
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Well then you don't recognize human life at the same level that I do. Nothing dishonest about any of that, I just think you're wrong. Each sperm is unique, each egg is unique, they're both alive, they create a unique being if in the infinite machination of the universe they manage to come together. If you don't get that every sperm you produce is a human life then that just illustrates the limitations of your intellect.

So if sperm is not human life your position is that humans are created by non-human life? Or non-life? Or what?

And quit doing that "you're dishonest" shit. I'm engaging you honestly even if we disagree.
 
Final Rehab said:
Well then you don't recognize human life at the same level that I do. Nothing dishonest about any of that, I just think you're wrong. Each sperm is unique, each egg is unique, they're both alive, they create a unique being if in the infinite machination of the universe they manage to come together. If you don't get that every sperm you produce is a human life then that just illustrates the limitations of your intellect.

So if sperm is not human life your position is that humans are created by non-human life? Or non-life? Or what?

And quit doing that "you're dishonest" shit. I'm engaging you honestly even if we disagree.
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If not dishonest, then ay least communicating within very narrow language parameters. When talking about "life" we usually mean organisms that can reproduce. Can sperm reproduce to make more sperm?
 
Bald1 said:
If not dishonest, then ay least communicating within very narrow language parameters. When talking about "life" we usually mean organisms that can reproduce. Can sperm reproduce to make more sperm?
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Sperm is alive and a necessary component for reproduction. Why is the value of that sperm more or less before or after it has penetrated the wall of the egg? How is sperm not "life"? How is my position dishonest?
 
SafeSpace said:
...it's sad that hilary took her loss with more dignity then both the fake news peddlers and hollyweirdos.
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so much for that .. goes on an award show to attack the guy who beat her by reading off shit from a book full of fabrications .. she's looked more and more pathetic as time has passed after the election
 
Final Rehab said:
Sperm is alive and a necessary component for reproduction. Why is the value of that sperm more or less before or after it has penetrated the wall of the egg? How is sperm not "life"? How is my position dishonest?
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One of the defining traits of living beings is reproduction. Does sperm reproduce? Is it a species? Does it eat, grow, mate, or seek self preservation?

As you said, it's a component or an ingredient. It's vital to perpetuating humanity, but is not human.

Interesting conversation though, and one I've not considered before.
 
Final Rehab said:
Each sperm is unique, each egg is unique, they're both alive, they create a unique being if in the infinite machination of the universe they manage to come together.
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Yet they aren't and never will be human beings. They are sperm and eggs. Pieces of a human being.

Final Rehab said:
If you don't get that every sperm you produce is a human life then that just illustrates the limitations of your intellect.
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How? Find one source that calls a sperm cell or egg a human

Final Rehab said:
So if sperm is not human life your position is that humans are created by non-human life?
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Sperm and eggs come from humans. I'm
Not sure what point you're trying to make
 
Bald1 said:
One of the defining traits of living beings is reproduction. Does sperm reproduce? Is it a species? Does it eat, grow, mate, or seek self preservation?

As you said, it's a component or an ingredient. It's vital to perpetuating humanity, but is not human.

Interesting conversation though, and one I've not considered before.
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I'm not so much trying to be "right" in this conversation as opposed to considering the particulars of a very tricky subject. If I consider a sperm a living thing worthy of protection but someone else says it's not that way until conception and someone else says not until the first trimester who is right? It's all part of the cycle of reproduction. All of the components are alive, right?

Also, what about artificial intelligence things? If you made a machine that consumes (eats), grows, seeks a partner to replicate (mates), and seeks self preservation is it now a "life"?

Interesting stuff IMO, and I'm not pretending to be an ultimate authority or anything.
 
oleDirtyBast4rd said:
Yet they aren't and never will be human beings. They are sperm and eggs. Pieces of a human being.
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So human sperm and human eggs will never come together to become human beings like you and me? I'm trying to be nice here but go sit in the fucking dunce chair buddy.
 
Final Rehab said:
So human sperm and human eggs will never come together to become human beings like you and me? I'm trying to be nice here but go sit in the fucking dunce chair buddy.
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Right... on their own they are sperm and eggs. When they come together (conception you fucking retard) they become a human being. You just defeated your own argument while calling me a dunce. I think I love you
 
oleDirtyBast4rd said:
Right... on their own they are sperm and eggs. When they come together (conception you fucking retard) they become a human being. You just defeated your own argument while calling me a dunce. I think I love you
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I love you too man
 
Final Rehab said:
So human sperm and human eggs will never come together to become human beings like you and me? I'm trying to be nice here but go sit in the fucking dunce chair buddy.
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Sperm and eggs exist in humans but that does not mean they are humans. When they coalesce they create human life, but on their own I don't believe they can be considered biologically comparable to humans.
 
Final Rehab said:
The problem here is that you have no idea what you're talking about. PP's primary function is to prevent unwanted pregnancies from occurring. Me and many of the girls I've had sex with used it for that purpose and I never made a child I didn't want, I've never taken a girl to PP to get my child aborted. You're just dead wrong, and unfortunately your ignorance on the subject is not uncommon.

To the subject of the thread, Crowder is a spectacularly unfunny idiot.
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If you wanna see him be spectacularly stupid, check out his "AIDS is not an epidemic" or something video. The smartest thing that guy ever did was convince right wingers he's funny and relevant.
 
Viva said:
Sperm and eggs exist in humans but that does not mean they are humans. When they coalesce they create human life, but on their own I don't believe they can be considered biologically comparable to humans.
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I'm just fascinated with the moral conundrum in this debate that passes judgement on what particular point in the reproductive process that life is sacred.

Hey, maybe I see my life beginning at the moment my parents looked at each other and said "how you doin?" Interference with that would terminate my existence. So I see cock-blocking as murder.
 
Final Rehab said:
I'm just fascinated with the moral conundrum in this debate that passes judgement on what particular point in the reproductive process that life is sacred.

Hey, maybe I see my life beginning at the moment my parents looked at each other and said "how you doin?" Interference with that would terminate my existence. So I see cock-blocking as murder.
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Yeah it's definitely a very contentious subject, and there doesn't seem to be any definitive evidence (as far as I've seen) in regards to when it is considered a sentient life, and thus being "sacred". I'm more of a pro choice guy myself but I think the pro life crowd makes some solid arguments.

Also, Cliff Burton was the fuckin man.
 
Mark Cutting said:
*casinos

You seem a bit overwrought.
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You might be the most shook dude on Sherdog. I called your boy a fucking con man, and you come at me for grammar.

Go take a brisk walk, Son.
 
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