“Republican Party is a domestic terror group”

Good luck convincing anyone else. We live in a country where people still refuse to call the fucking atomic bombings of civilian populations in Hiroshima and Nagasaki acts of terror.
That was an act of war as we were still in a state of declared war. Besides. I am convinced many many more millions of Japanese would have died if he had actually invaded them like we originally planned to.. Can you imagine the stark difference? In the end, i am ok with it as it ultimately saved lives. The millions of lives that would have been lost by direct invasion. It would have been the end of the Japanese as a people..
 
And then we wouldn’t have Pokemon or tentacle porn.

That was an act of war as we were still in a state of declared war. Besides. I am convinced many many more millions of Japanese would have died if he had actually invaded them like we originally planned to.. Can you imagine the stark difference? In the end, i am ok with it as it ultimately saved lives. The millions of lives that would have been lost by direct invasion. It would have been the end of the Japanese as a people..
 
Just another round of "categorizing a thing I don't like in the worst way possible." I react to this the same way I react when someone tells me there's a war on Christmas. Cut it out with the overly evocative language already, fear mongers; I'm pretty sure it's accomplishing the opposite of what you're intending.
 
Just another round of "categorizing a thing I don't like in the worst way possible." I react to this the same way I react when someone tells me there's a war on Christmas. Cut it out with the overly evocative language already, fear mongers; I'm pretty sure it's accomplishing the opposite of what you're intending.
You're right, but this specific kind of criticism also warrants equally delusional behavior from the listener. "This is why I voted for Trump" kind of stuff. Or, "If liberals keep xxx-ing, then we'll overreact by doing y."
 
Just another round of "categorizing a thing I don't like in the worst way possible." I react to this the same way I react when someone tells me there's a war on Christmas. Cut it out with the overly evocative language already, fear mongers; I'm pretty sure it's accomplishing the opposite of what you're intending.

Aren't the people selling fear terrorists?
 
They can and should keep their social conservatism for one. And even as a leftist I don't think every idea that comes out of the left is great so the GOP could always be the sensible voice for the market and market based solutions.

If you define terrorism as violence with a political goal then of course it was and Chomsky likes to critique US foreign policy with that definition in mind. I suppose it has its uses but I think its also a bit too broad and strays too far from what the average person conceives as terrorism, which is generally political violence by non-state actors.

Is it though?

We charge people for giving material or propaganda support for terrorists, so does it require violence?

Also, we don't call all violence terrorism.
 
Is it though?

We charge people for giving material or propaganda support for terrorists, so does it require violence?
That would fall under aiding and abetting terrorists I imagine
Also, we don't call all violence terrorism.
Because not all violence is terrorism. I said that political violence is terrorism and then specified that generally people mean political violence by non-state actors.
 
That would fall under aiding and abetting terrorists I imagine

Because not all violence is terrorism. I said that political violence is terrorism and then specified that generally people mean political violence by non-state actors.

Seems like a popular use defintion, which is valid.

I guess I question what terrorism is, as I view it as using fear to trigger our fight or flight lizard brain mechanism.
 
Seems like a popular use defintion, which is valid.

I guess I question what terrorism is, as I view it as using fear to trigger our fight or flight lizard brain mechanism.
That is a very broad definition of terrorism. Using that even a Halloween prank would be considered terrorism.
 
That is a very broad definition of terrorism. Using that even a Halloween prank would be considered terrorism.

This is where I think intent comes into the definition. You also need intent of fear to produce an action.
 
Aren't the people selling fear terrorists?
Maybe in a semantic way, sure; but they aren't behaving in the sort of meaningful way that I, and I think most people, consider terrorists to behave. I'm not concerned about ISIS because they deliver obnoxious rhetoric on daytime TV news talk shows, for instance, so I don't think it's worth much to sling the word around just because a case can be made that it technically fits.
 
This is where I think intent comes into the definition. You also need intent of fear to produce an action.
I don't think that's a very helpful definition, its too broad and encompasses people who aren't necessarily engaging or aiding and abetting violence.
 
I don't think that's a very helpful definition, its too broad and encompasses people who aren't necessarily engaging or aiding and abetting violence.

So you don't think psychological warfare is terrorism?

I think terrorism is psychological warfare.
 
So you don't think psychological warfare is terrorism?

I think terrorism is psychological warfare.
Intimidation, as in the threat of violence, can be considered terrorism but I don't consider selling fear terrorism.
 
Maybe in a semantic way, sure; but they aren't behaving in the sort of meaningful way that I, and I think most people, consider terrorists to behave. I'm not concerned about ISIS because they deliver obnoxious rhetoric on daytime TV news talk shows, for instance, so I don't think it's worth much to sling the word around just because a case can be made that it technically fits.


I don't think the danger of ISIS lies in car bombs, I think it lies in the rhetoric of a global caliphate, and it's use of fear and violence as a tool to reach those ends.
 
I don't think the danger of ISIS lies in car bombs, I think it lies in the rhetoric of a global caliphate, and it's use of fear and violence as a tool to reach those ends.
I think that includes car bombs, and the willingness to threaten and perform violence to coerce others into surrendering to an ideology is significantly different to me than what some members of the GOP engage in, however otherwise distasteful.

We also have a slew of phrases that amount to an emphasis on action over speech:

-Actions speak louder than words
-All bark and no bite
-Shit or get off the pot
-He's all talk

I'm sure that I'm forgetting a bunch.
 
We've all heard or read that "the pen is mightier than the sword," but there's an immediate danger to someone wielding a sword that prioritizes one threat over the other. Even if that's the only place where the distinction is, it'd be enough for me to not lump together the two ways of spreading fear that we're discussing.
 
Terrorists? Not really. Their platform is fear and ignorance, but they are not blowing parents up to scare their children.

They are certainly domestic threats, though.
 
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