Social ‘Guardians Of The Galaxy’ 1&2 director fired by Disney for saying he likes little boys.

[Deus Ex Machina]

Zero evidence he is actually a chomo and people should stop overreacting.

With that being said, who WOULDNT fire this guy from ANY job. Hell, I would fire him from being a cashier at McDonalds. Worst attempt at being funny I've ever seen.

Yep thats the dichotomy of free speach, you can say what you want but there are consequences. However..if you are being deeply honest...are you actually offended

You could apply the same interpretation to McCarthyism.
There's a reason "Big Brother" became synonymous with state surveillance.
I liked 1984, but I don't see that totalitarianism in modern society in any significant fashion.
As dystopias go, I think Huxley was closer.
An oldie but goodie:

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Hate to sound ignorant but i am unaware of mccarthyism, any recomendations on where i should start as this type of thing interests me.

I love that cartoon but i think society now is a combination of both, we are overstimulated with bullshit and frivolity hower we stray from the 'utopia' of the kardashians, playstation and acceptance of what we are told society cannot help but gather together to punish the deviants. We no longer need the police when your views, regardless of them being legal, see a mob form to ruin your reputation, harrass your employers untill you are fired and ruin the lives of your family just because you have a different idea of whats funny than you have been told you can laugh at.

 

[Ruprecht]

Yep thats the dichotomy of free speach, you can say what you want but there are consequences. However..if you are being deeply honest...are you actually offended

Hate to sound ignorant but i am unaware of mccarthyism, any recomendations on where i should start as this type of thing interests me.

I love that cartoon but i think society now is a combination of both, we are overstimulated with bullshit and frivolity hower we stray from the 'utopia' of the kardashians, playstation and acceptance of what we are told society cannot help but gather together to punish the deviants. We no longer need the police when your views, regardless of them being legal, see a mob form to ruin your reputation, harrass your employers untill you are fired and ruin the lives of your family just because you have a different idea of whats funny than you have been told you can laugh at.

McCarythism was the American anticommunist paranoia that included the idea of informing on friends, family or colleagues with communist sympathies.

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I guess it depends on your point of reference, but modern society in first world countries is far less censorious and conformist than most I've lived in, let alone historically.
Comparing facebook likes with Communist totalitarianism... seems like a very youthful outlook.

 

[Deus Ex Machina]

McCarythism was the American anticommunist paranoia that included the idea of informing on friends, family or colleagues with communist sympathies.

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I guess it depends on your point of reference, but modern society in first world countries is far less censorious and conformist than most I've lived in, let alone historically.
Comparing facebook likes with Communist totalitarianism... seems like a very youthful outlook.

I will follow up on that

I agree that it seems like a youthful outlook but that seems to be todays measure of how valuable you are as a person, kids are more concerned with how many instagram followers you have than how many degrees.
I am far from a youth so i couldnt care less about much of todays shallow, fake society but i must acknowledge its existence. I just do my best to engage with people who are willing to speak freely and frankly even if our views differ, after all if everyone has the same opinion how can you hope to learn or become a nuanced individual?

 

[tramendous]

Bill Burr made jokes about beating women. Is he a woman beater?

 

[n...not crazy]

Those tweets are inconsistent with my values.

 

[nhbbear]

Comedians make crazy offensive jokes. He is a director, but still an artistic person. Is he really a pedo, or was he just making bad jokes? Overreacting imo, now the third gaurdians is probably going to suck unless they get joss whedon

 

[Squarechoke]

Why would anyone want to 'break the taboo' of paedophilia... unless they were trying to normalise it? And it's quite clear that the constant 'joking' about paedophilia is almost exclusively a leftist thing.

You just asked a question of which the answer was in my previous post. What is the point of that? You really should look into the concept of comedy as even a surface level study would show you how chock and taboo comedy works. Right now I'd expect you to think that a Jewish comedian making jokes about the holocaust means that he wants people to look on that more favorably.

Since you insist on making it a political thing and want to talk about normalization I'd suggest focusing on guys like Milo Yiannopoulos instead. Someone that made points about the law of consent being oppressive as he thought there are perfectly fine relationships between 13 year-olds and 28 year-olds. No comedic intent whatsoever, just presented as an argument. Not that I would be so silly as to say that only right wing people think like that.

 

[freakroor]

l Thats creepy, thats communist east germany/1984 and we are voluntarily choosing it for ourselves with every incident like this.

why do you think getting fired from a Disney job is comparable to being hunted down and tortured by storm troopers / orwellian thought police?!

 

[cottagecheesefan]

Bill Burr made jokes about beating women. Is he a woman beater?

Maybe he is, maybe he isn't.... but is he gonna fire himself from his own podcast?

Maybe those jokes are why he has nothing on his IMBD since 2015 outside of one episode on a show, and a very minor part in a mov8e coming out sometime this year.

Thanks for highlighting how people who say potenrially offensive shit don't get big movie deals and such.

That being said, Burr's jokes can be funny. Please show me one of these tweets that is actually funny and/or find someone who actually finds them funny. The person who finds them funny should likely have a psych eval done.

Plus Burr always prefaced his jokes saying that he deosnt hit women, but that he can see why someone might do it. And at the same time , he is still considered a misogynistic pig.

Is this guy someone who isn't a Pedo, but can see what people would do it? Eitherway, he is a sick fuck.

I also do find it funny how people try to defend this by talking about people defending Trump.

There is some rational to admitting that Trump is a sleazy shit who fucks prostitutes and open stars, but at the same time, the Clintons are piece of shit, so it is not like there is much separating the two. I don't think anyone actully is in favor of Trump doing these things, they just overlook it, because it is typical of the rich and famous, regardless of political affiliation. Most people view all politicians for the most part as sleazy piece of shit.

At the same time, pedophilia goes beyond politics. There are outted pedophiles on both sides of actual politicians, let alone famous people who endorse certain politics. These people are rightfully shamed and disgraced in the public eye.

Hollywood rightfully gets extra karma regarding pedophilia because info their constant virtue signaling on pretty much every single social issue, with the exception of child rape and exploitation.

Mel Gibson still has the karma as a racist , misogynistic, crazy religious person. His selling power has forever been crushed. That was from one or 2 drunken outbursts.... no one is feeling sorry for him. Who is feeling sorry for Rosanne?

No one is. They are considered dumbasses by the general public, regardless of politics. Only the lowest of people, on either side, actually defend these goofs.

 

[nac386]

Bill Burr made jokes about beating women. Is he a woman beater?

Bill Burr frames his ideas as jokes, with setups and punchlines. He's also a stand-up comedian, performing his jokes in front of a paying audience or on his comedy podcast. He also never said he beats women. He also doesn't direct one of the biggest franchise in Hollywood. There's nothing similar between the two at all.

 

[Deus Ex Machina]

why do you think getting fired from a Disney job is comparable to being hunted down and tortured by storm troopers / orwellian thought police?!

If you read my posts in this thread you will see that i don't disagree with disney firing the guy, his jokes were not apropriate for a disney employee.

My comments related to how we as a society are so willing to go on a witch hunt against people who speak outwith narrow parameters of decency.
While i think disney parting ways was inevitable i wonder why someone was looking through the 10 year old tweets of this guy and what their motivation was for bringing them to light.
This has probably achieved that persons goal of getting a guy fired and made a parriah because of a poor joke and earning themselves social status by showing how righteous they are, ultimately gaining social credability by being seen as an upstanding citizen by outing a non conformer, that is where i draw the comparison.

I know it may seem almost flippant to say noone likes a grass but i think thats my point, why are we all so keen to see people taken down and why does it make people happy?

In the grand scheme of things it was a distasteful joke, nothing more, why are volunteering to police the thoughts of someone we have no connection to who has commited no crime?

 

[Ranzou**]

Been watching this thread for the last couple of days.

Jesus you guys. This is not a "political" or "free speech" issue. This dude made some fucked up in the head comments about raping CHILDREN. To get behind Gunn and try to rationalize them as some sort of off colour comedy is the highest form of fucking stupidity and I call into question every single one of your fucking morals.

....just....WOW

 

[Deleted member 391673]

Bill Burr made jokes about beating women. Is he a woman beater?

if bill burr was employed by a company that focused on domestic violence/abuse i'm sure he'd get canned.
disney is a company that is focused on entertainment for children so it's obvious they'd let get of someone who makes those types of jokes.

 

[Squarechoke]

It would be interesting to hear an explanation of why Disney isn't firing Robert Downey Jr for all the things he's done and said in the past. He certainly wasn't in line with Disney's values.

 

[DespicablePeep]

It would be interesting to hear an explanation of why Disney isn't firing Robert Downey Jr for all the things he's done and said in the past. He certainly wasn't in line with Disney's values.

He makes money and no Pedo jokes, Disney probably thinks they can run GotG without Gunn, its stupid to have a guy doing work for a studio that lives off kids with a past of pedo jokes.

 

[Squarechoke]

Been watching this thread for the last couple of days.

Jesus you guys. This is not a "political" or "free speech" issue. This dude made some fucked up in the head comments about raping CHILDREN. To get behind Gunn and try to rationalize them as some sort of off colour comedy is the highest form of fucking stupidity and I call into question every single one of your fucking morals.

....just....WOW

You don't seem to know what intelligence is judging by your comment. His posts were very clearly meant as jokes and comedy has included breaking taboos and using chock value for longer than our nations have existed. The fact that some get as highly upset as you did is part of why his jokes were funny to some, which I get even though I didn't find anything I've seen of it funny at all. It's the reason why comedians have joked about the holocaust, about terrorist attacks, about starving children in the third world, or whatever other sensitive subject you can think of. It's about being able to think about things rationally and not be so mentally weak that you're ruled by your emotions.

Of course Disney has the right to do what they think is best for their business, but make no mistake that it's all they are reacting to - how their business will be affected.

It's also funny when some people make a bigger deal out of very poor taste comedy than the US president being caught bragging about getting away with sexual assault because he's famous.

 

[cottagecheesefan]

You don't seem to know what intelligence is judging by your comment. His posts were very clearly meant as jokes and comedy has included breaking taboos and using chock value for longer than our nations have existed. The fact that some get as highly upset as you did is part of why his jokes were funny to some, which I get even though I didn't find anything I've seen of it funny at all. It's the reason why comedians have joked about the holocaust, about terrorist attacks, about starving children in the third world, or whatever other sensitive subject you can think of. It's about being able to think about things rationally and not be so mentally weak that you're ruled by your emotions.

Of course Disney has the right to do what they think is best for their business, but make no mistake that it's all they are reacting to - how their business will be affected.

It's also funny when some people make a bigger deal out of very poor taste comedy than the US president being caught bragging about getting away with sexual assault because he's famous.

Which assaults?

 

[Squarechoke]

He makes money and no Pedo jokes, Disney probably thinks they can run GotG without Gunn, its stupid to have a guy doing work for a studio that lives off kids with a past of pedo jokes.

They money part is the real answer, together with that the outrage of RDJ isn't current, but they wouldn't actually say that so that's why I thought it would be interesting to hear them talk about it.

This isn't the first time Gunn's posts have caused controversy so Disney already knew who they had doing work for them. Hell, Disney has even hired a convicted child molester and child porn owner as a director in the past (although it's of less relevance to this as it wasn't the same management).

 

[Squarechoke]

Which assaults?

His grab them by the pussy monologue has him describing sexually assaulting women and saying that he gets away with it because he's famous.

 

[cottagecheesefan]

His grab them by the pussy monologue has him describing sexually assaulting women and saying that he gets away with it because he's famous.

How is an act between consenting people assault? Is sticking a cigar in a pussy not assault then, even if between consenting people?