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Old 04-02-2014, 04:38 PM   #131
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troll post? Lololololol
He's clearly trolling, or maybe he's just that stupid and hasn't even seen Saku fight or he doesn't know anything about that era. Saku is a fucking legend.

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Old 04-02-2014, 04:46 PM   #132
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Who is the clown shoes that stated this OP.. What a joke of a OP.. Saku COULDN'T finish off Royce whenever he wanted.. that is a total lie... He went for Various submissions and FAILED at each one of them over numerous rounds. The closest he came was the knee bar he had on.. Only a total Moron would think Saku wasn't trying to finish of Royce as soon as he could knowing he had to fight that same night. To say nothing of the fact.. that Royce won the first two 10 minute rounds.. So Saku was hardly dominating him. Kicking Royce legs over and over isn't dominating him. Royce never quit.. Helio threw in the towel

He never submitted Royler and this was made clear by the official verdict. The ref was not allowed to stop the fight for a submission unless Royler tapped... Royler never tapped and thus Saku never won. Same thing with Yoshida vs. Royce.. the ref illegally stopped the fight when he wasn't allowed to do so.. verdict overturned.

Renzo by the way was beating Saku pretty easily in their fight.. he controlled all three rounds and was ahead in that fight till the final minute of the last round. Let's not act like he was dominating Renzo.. he wasn't. He was actually losing the majority of that fight. He did dominate Ryan though. I would even say he dominated Royler.. then again he outweighed him by for then 30 pounds 2.
No just stop.

Royce got beat up the entire fight period. If Royce would have got his way and truly had no time limit that knee bar would have ended him. He also tangled his arm in the rope so saku couldn't secure the kimura.

"Renzo was beating saku pretty easily"? Man you are delusional, it was a good fight and renzo may have won that first round by a hair but by no means was he easily winning. Oh by the way saku landed the much harder strikes displayed better grappling and then proceeded to tear renzos arm apart and WIN.

Stop saying he did not beat royler thank The Lord the ref stopped that fight, that was so merciful saku was just embarrassing royler and damn near walked away with his arm if it wasn't for the ref.

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Old 04-02-2014, 05:15 PM   #133
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I'm the delusional one? Royce was doing very well in the first 2 or 3 rounds.. Then Saku took over... WITH LEG kicks... He never threatened Royce with anything other than the knee bar.. even then.. Saku later said he didn't have it and Royce had pulled his knee out enough that he didn't have it. Watch the match again NOT just the highlights

Renzo DID win that first round... the judges had scored it that way SO DID EVERYBODY ELSE. Yes it was a good fight, and good fight RENZO was winning . The first round was the longest and most important round.. Thus Renzo winning that round meant a lot. Saku ONLY won that fight at the VERY end.. if it went to the judges Renzo gets the verdict.. this is something AGAIN saku admitted.

He had him in a position where Royler could do nothing.. that much I agree.. but he didn't win by the rules of the match. The rules stated the ref couldn't stop the fight.. the ref stopped the fight.. PERIOD

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Old 04-02-2014, 05:18 PM   #134
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I'm the delusional one? Royce was doing very well in the first 2 or 3 rounds.. Then Saku took over... WITH LEG kicks... He never threatened Royce with anything other than the knee bar.. even then.. Saku later said he didn't have it and Royce had pulled his knee out enough that he didn't have it. Watch the match again NOT just the highlights

Renzo DID win that first round... the judges had scored it that way SO DID EVERYBODY ELSE. Yes it was a good fight, and good fight RENZO was winning . The first round was the longest and most important round.. Thus Renzo winning that round meant a lot. Saku ONLY won that fight at the VERY end.. if it went to the judges Renzo gets the verdict.. this is something AGAIN saku admitted.

He had him in a position where Royler could do nothing.. that much I agree.. but he didn't win by the rules of the match. The rules stated the ref couldn't stop the fight.. the ref stopped the fight.. PERIOD
That's mighty Just Bleedy of you to say a fight shouldn't be stopped after a broken arm...

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Old 04-02-2014, 05:25 PM   #135
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Has Royler even commented on any of this?

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Old 04-02-2014, 05:38 PM   #136
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Old 04-02-2014, 05:56 PM   #137
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You may dislike Royce, but Ralek destroyed him, and Sak couldn't finish Royler who he outweighed significantly.

Saku also lost to a string of BJJ guys such as Nino, and Little Nog.

Be mad at Royce, but Sakuraba;'s legacy is a thin sheet.
Thin sheet?: Newton, Belfort, Royce, Renzo, Rampage, Randleman.

And consider his early losses: Leopoldo, Vovchanchyn, Wanderlei, Cro Cop, Regerio, Arona. Not exactly chumps (outside of his loss to Schembri).

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Old 04-02-2014, 06:02 PM   #138
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Royler did walk out of the arena holding his arm and there is a photo of this.
He also winced in pain when the hammerlock was first applied.
Tough call, but he was submitted. There is no such thing as being too flexible for that lock.

On the other hand, Royce got ripped off in the stoppage against Yoshida. He had half guard and the Ezekiel was not working. He was not out either; he jumped up immediately when the ref stopped it.
Yoshida should have been asked about that; he told the ref to stop the fight unjustly, and then he put his arms up like he had actually done something big.

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