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Old 01-27-2014, 04:56 PM   #51
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I think it can be argued that Shogun won the first two round against Gustafsson.

They were close, but he definitely showed that he can hang. he just gassed in the third.

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Old 01-27-2014, 05:02 PM   #52
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If getting tapped out by Sonnen in the first round doesn't motivate you, nothing will.
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Old 01-27-2014, 05:04 PM   #53
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I like Shogun, but he's not beating Jones.

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Old 01-27-2014, 05:04 PM   #54
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If getting tapped out by Sonnen in the first round doesn't motivate you, nothing will.
When you hit rock bottom, the only other way is up. Shogun LHW champ 2015 BELIEVE!



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Old 01-27-2014, 05:05 PM   #55
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Did TS even watch Shogun/Jones?

Even a mythical TRT Shogun that's 3 inches taller and 15 pounds bigger still gets his ass beat Jon Jones. My god, he was taken down AT WILL and he has absolutely no answer for the hellbows off his back.
hellbows, how fucking old are you kid

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Old 01-27-2014, 05:26 PM   #56
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I'm sure Shogun can come up with better things that have happened to him.
LOL awesome 1st response. best i've seen in a while

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Old 01-27-2014, 05:33 PM   #57
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Losses can always be valuable lessons. People do need to realize that cardio is a weapon just like a strong chin and speed are. SHoguns has always been suspect. I truly believe some people can train their asses off and just not have it as well as others.....Def hurts Shogun in a lot of fights.
No it hasn't. Watch the fight against Lil Nog. Before he ruptured his ACL Shogun's cardio and ability to set an overwhelming pace were second to none.

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Old 01-27-2014, 05:34 PM   #58
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I think the Sonnen loss definitely motivated him too. but he should drop to 185. if he were in shape, he wouldn't even be a big 185 compared to Weidman. He's going to have trouble with Jones even on his best days. Gus too, and maybe even glover.

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Old 01-27-2014, 05:37 PM   #59
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shogun is a dangerous fight for anyone, people who say he isn't are just trolls or haters
that's my sherdog response as it seems if you don't like a guy on this site you get called a troll or hater
But really its all opinionated, I personally do feel like he is always gonna be a tough fight for everyone at 205, but I always picture the shogun from his 2005 run showing up, good heavy hands good BJJ, heres hoping for another title run, if not as a fan, heres hoping for some exciting battles in 2014, either way for me WAR SHOGUN!!!!
No one is saying Shogun isn't a dangerous fight, but based on his fights with Jones, Gus, Hendo and Sonnen, there is no reason to believe he'll get anywhere near the title in 2014.

Being realistic =/= being a hater

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Old 01-27-2014, 05:43 PM   #60
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Sub'd by guillotine in the 1st?
Staged.
No f'ing way.





Na congrats to Chael
Healthy Shogun is GOAT.

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