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Old 07-04-2014, 02:23 PM   #41
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Weidman is also a physical beast, possibly one of the few 185ers who is actually stronger than GatorMan

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Old 07-04-2014, 02:23 PM   #42
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Jacare is the better grappler no question. Doesnt mean he will submit Weidman or dominate him. But overall vs total competition Jacare is better.
Yeah.

The fact that Jacare isn't a lock to pwn Weidman in grappling is enough for me to think of Chris as one of the best grapplers in mma though.

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Old 07-04-2014, 02:29 PM   #43
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Did anyone picking Jacare actually watch his fights with Kennedy and Rockhold? Pure BJJ and MMA grappling are two entirely different things. Fact is, Jacare prolly can't take down Weidman and that is in it of itself superior grappling

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Old 07-04-2014, 02:43 PM   #44
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Did anyone picking Jacare actually watch his fights with Kennedy and Rockhold? Pure BJJ and MMA grappling are two entirely different things. Fact is, Jacare prolly can't take down Weidman and that is in it of itself superior grappling
of course they didnt, but the popular and accepted notion on sherdog is that Jacare beats anyone with his grappling and thus it gets regurgitated constantly by those who have seen 1 or 2 of his fights.

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Old 07-04-2014, 02:47 PM   #45
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Really doesn't matter cause teh chris smashes him

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Old 07-04-2014, 02:52 PM   #46
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Off topic, but this is why people who say Ronda would get easily owned by BJJ women her own size and even smaller are nuts. Her strength is so unearthly that Jake Ellenberger thinks she could compete successfully in the men's BW division.
Her judo technique is decent but her ability to perform an armbar is phenomenal. And yes you are correct, it is quite evident she has the strength of a mule.

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Old 07-04-2014, 03:00 PM   #47
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Jacare because he's nasty on top, on his back, and has great wrestling and even better judo.

Weidman has great top control, a clever passing game and some good chokes to go with his outstanding wrestling.

That doesn't mean he couldn't beat Jacare on the ground but if it went there, i'd rather be Jacare.

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Old 07-04-2014, 03:04 PM   #48
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OMG, Weidman is the new Jon Jones. But lacks in the testing department.

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Old 07-04-2014, 03:09 PM   #49
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Jacare is a beast. nobody wants to hang with jacare on the ground in any format that being mma or straight bjj.
I don't recall the details, beyond Jacare running low on gas, but didn't Rockhold roll with him for a bit during their title fight, which he essentially dominated?

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