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Old 12-24-2013, 09:09 PM   #31

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Originally Posted by St0neHand5 View Post
Takedown DEFENSE = Offense??
Okay saying offense may be a stretch but I always see the argument comparing stuffing a takedown with blocking a strike. It's not the same, a strike is a strike and a takedown is a grappling exchange attempting to dictate where the fight takes place, successfully preventing the takedown means you are choosing where the fight takes place.

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Old 12-24-2013, 09:09 PM   #32

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Khabib was landing the harder shots, I don't know if Tibau landed anything significant the entire fight (and don't give me the bullshit fightmetric "stats"), and he was the aggressor the entire fight while having octagon control. Easy win for Khabib, dunno what all the hulabaloo is about.

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Old 12-24-2013, 09:28 PM   #33

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Tibau did absolutely nothing. How can you argue a guy deserves to win a fight when he does nothing at all?? If anything argue they both lost. But Khabib actually pushed the action

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Old 12-24-2013, 09:37 PM   #34

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Um, aggression is not effective unless you're coming forward and LANDING strikes, which Khabib wasn't.

Khabib was the reason not much happened in that fight. I think he was scared of Tibau. He just came forward with his head down windmilling to try to put Tibau on the defensive and avoid strikes, and then grabbed Gleison ASAP to prevent there from being much time to speak of in space. Then he proceeded to go 0 for 13 on TD's. Gleison was 1 for 6.

The fight stats also show that Tibau equaled or out-struck Khabib in every round. I'm not the biggest on fight stats these days, but that's in part because I think the UFC who owns FM uses them to push certain agendas, however I can't figure out why they would favor Tibau in this case. Regardless, those #'s are food for thought for the at least Khabib did something crowd. I'd contend it just looked like it because he was coming forward and swinging his arms in a defensive version of Sanchez and Garcia style.

If you don't put stock in fight stats, what about the media judges? They scored it 5-1 Tibau, with 4 30-27's, 1 30-28, and 1 28-29. To the guy who blindly went to the cliched response that those who thought Khabib lost were "Roganized" again, much of the media is at the events to not be influenced by Rogan. And I'm regularly at odds with Rogan. I watch with the sound down low, ignore him, and mock the absurdity of many of the things he claims are happening. So to accuse somebody like me or the media of being Roganized is erroneous and a major reach of a defense against a scoring opinion you disagree with.

I'll throw those on the Khabib hype train, which is going way too fast right now, that he may have improved, but he lost that fight.

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Old 12-24-2013, 09:38 PM   #35

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No doubt Khabib's worst performance. He probably should've lost. I'm still a huge fan because it seems like he's improving.

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Old 12-24-2013, 10:38 PM   #36
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None of them did anything, at least khabib tried and landed the best shots. Also he has improved since

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