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Old 01-22-2014, 09:03 AM   #21
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Any cliffs/notes on MMA related things for people who might not wanna listen to a 3 hour podcast?
I guess relevant to the TRT debate, he pretty much says guys are gaming the system, and that most with "low T" have it because they abused it, or other banned substances, in the past so they aren't producing as much anymore. He kind of disagreed with Joe's idea that head trauma causes a big drop in T...he didn't flat out discount it, just said he's seen many many guys sustain lots of blows to the head and have perfectly fine T levels...so he thinks the low T phenomenon is more due to past abuse.


Outside of that...interesting to hear his background and training philosophies. He has much respect for traditional martial arts, and really never even wanted to get into the big time MMA scene. Liddell was his first guy that wanted to take a fight, and he said fine, take a couple fights and we'll see what happens...we all know what happened next. He seems like a hell of a decent guy.

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Old 01-22-2014, 09:51 AM   #22
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Awesome podcast ! JRE all day

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Old 01-22-2014, 12:36 PM   #23
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25th minute they are talking about primo Carnera and joe and john are saying that he was 7 feet tall. Primo was 6'5 which was HUGE back then but by no means 7 feet tall.

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Did anybody else notice Hackleman's heavy breathing throughout the whole thing? It really bugged me haha.

Joe respected him too much to say anything. If it was Joey Diaz he would have been like Jesus christ Joey stop breathing into the fucking mic

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Old 01-22-2014, 12:38 PM   #25
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I'm 1:46 in atm. Great podcast. Minus hackleman's breathing lol .

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Old 01-22-2014, 12:44 PM   #26
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Old 01-22-2014, 12:59 PM   #27
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That was a long podcast but informative.

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Old 01-22-2014, 01:08 PM   #28
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Thanks but if I wanna hear some old fart ramble for 3 hours ill visit a retirement home.

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Old 01-22-2014, 01:15 PM   #29
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Thanks but if I wanna hear some old fart ramble for 3 hours ill visit a retirement home.
Nothing like learning from the experience of others.

What a dumb ass.

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lol so you sit around on the computer "learning from crusty experiences" than experiencing for yourself lmfao

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