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Old 02-05-2014, 07:13 PM   #51
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It's Cain's fight to lose but he definitely fights stupid at times. I could easily see him making the same mistake as Fedor and playing in Werdum's guard after dropping him. If it goes to the ground, I think Werdum grabs an arm bar or triangle since Cain can be sloppy.

If Cain fights smart and keeps it standing or against the cage it's an easy win.

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Old 02-05-2014, 07:14 PM   #52
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Cain would probably avoid the ground with Werdum in the first round, but wouldn't later in the fight.

The problem with fighting Cain is that he pressures with striking now. Before it was just wrestling, basically. It's hard to defend punches when you have to think about being taken down by an elite wrestler as well. Only someone who is an expert at counter-striking whilst backing up, and who isn't worried about being taken down, could beat him.

If Browne can get past Werdum, he might be able to pull something off. He's no expert striker. But he does have a diverse arsenal of knees and kicks, and is so arrogant about his take-down defense (which is pretty good), that he'd probably not be worried about being taken down.

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Old 02-05-2014, 07:20 PM   #53
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It's Cain's fight to lose but he definitely fights stupid at times. I could easily see him making the same mistake as Fedor and playing in Werdum's guard after dropping him. If it goes to the ground, I think Werdum grabs an arm bar or triangle since Cain can be sloppy.

If Cain fights smart and keeps it standing or against the cage it's an easy win.
I disagree about the sloppy. You could have said he's not much of athlete and so on. But his technique and cardio have always been really good. Maybe his BJJ is not on the level of Werdum's, but it's pretty good.

I mean, I've never seen him swept. I saw him get up easily when Brock took him down. And I've never seen anyone come close to even attempting a submission on him.

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Old 02-05-2014, 07:22 PM   #54
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I disagree about the sloppy. You could have said he's not much of athlete and so on. But his technique and cardio have always been really good. Maybe his BJJ is not on the level of Werdum's, but it's pretty good.

I mean, I've never seen him swept. I saw him get up easily when Brock took him down. And I've never seen anyone come close to even attempting a submission on him.
stopped reading there... ''maybe'' his BJJ isn't at the same level of Werdum's? just wow.

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Old 02-05-2014, 07:25 PM   #55
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Did the TS forget he's fighting Browne, who's going to wreck Werdum.

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Old 02-05-2014, 07:33 PM   #56
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stopped reading there... ''maybe'' his BJJ isn't at the same level of Werdum's? just wow.
Well, Cain has never been in a submission grappling tournament. We don't know how he'd fair.

Of course, I meant with respect to fighting in a cage. I've never seen anyone come close to a submission attempt on him.

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i would never doubt werdum's abilities. he HAS the skills to ko/sub anybody but i do question his HEART and CARDIO.

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Yeah, Nog seemed to be taking that fight over just before the finish. He was getting the better of Werdum and it seemed as though Werdum was tiring/fading. He has nothing for Cain.

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imagine if Cain gnp'd werdum to a win!!

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