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Old 07-13-2014, 02:35 PM   #51
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His t/e ratio was 17 times normal. That represents substantial use.
it does shows something is wrong, but it doesnt mean chael got 17000 ng/dl at the time he was checked...

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Old 07-14-2014, 12:09 AM   #52
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it does shows something is wrong, but it doesnt mean chael got 17000 ng/dl at the time he was checked...
The only thing it shows is that it's extremely likely he had synthetic T in his system (which he did).

As I already proved when I ran that other person off the thread you can have over 20:1 T:E ratio and have low T.

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Old 07-14-2014, 12:16 AM   #53
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Please correct me if I am wrong but to my understanding the purpose of TRT is when a guy gets old enough or for some other biological reason his natural testosterone levels go down so he takes TRT to bring them back up to normal levels.

Why is this a bad thing in MMA? Why is it not just acutely regulated so a fighter stays at a specific limit?

I understand if a fighter goes over what he would have naturally had but if all it's doing is bringing the level back up to normal than what's the problem?
Some believe that if you have been popped for steroids you ruined you're own body and don't deserve help. Also red lining your body (practice/ weight cut) head trama and other things contribute to low T so by the time you need trt in this sport IMHO it's already to late

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