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Old 05-07-2014, 03:55 PM   #31
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in other words, you and a few others are making the exact same argument today that you've been making for years, eh?

it's done. get over it. to quote a very vocal TRT user:

“The rules are the rules – that’s it,” Sonnen said. “Yesterday, it was legal, so quit complaining. Today, it’s illegal. That’s it. Quit complaining. End of conversation. Testosterone’s out.”

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Old 05-07-2014, 04:03 PM   #32
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I think it's good that it's banned. It's a steroid, plain and simple.

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Old 05-07-2014, 04:04 PM   #33
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Won't stop PEDs of course, but good. They were starting to get quite a bit of media attention on the issue if I remember correctly, and it definitely wasn't good attention.

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Old 05-07-2014, 04:10 PM   #34
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in other words, you and a few others are making the exact same argument today that you've been making for years, eh?

it's done. get over it. to quote a very vocal TRT user:

“The rules are the rules – that’s it,” Sonnen said. “Yesterday, it was legal, so quit complaining. Today, it’s illegal. That’s it. Quit complaining. End of conversation. Testosterone’s out.”


I don't care for TRT (If anything I said I am glad it is gone).

My point was that they were testing guys under TRT.
Now no one is testing ANYONE!

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Old 05-07-2014, 04:11 PM   #35
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No, not exactly.
Guys under TRT were tested regularly throughout their camps (I think it was weekly).

The point of TRT was to elevate their T up to the level of a healthy male, though they did have an allowance of 4 to 6 times the average male (mainly because at the time they inject it, their T would spike up and then go down with time.

However now, they are even tested, so potentially they can continue injecting themselves with T and cycle off before the fight.
And now they can be very high during training, since no one is checking it.

so now it is a bigger issue than before. (IMHO that is)
for the love of god... its fucking 2014 and people in sherdog still believe this?

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Old 05-07-2014, 04:13 PM   #36
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Sarcasm?
I know it's a minority opinion at the moment, but I suspect the future will prove me right. People are a bit (a lot) oversensitive about these kinds of drugs at the moment, I don't think it will always be this way.

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Old 05-07-2014, 04:15 PM   #37
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Improving fighter health and improving fighter longevity might be mutually exclusive.
Perhaps not, time will tell. A concern though, to be sure.

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Old 05-07-2014, 04:17 PM   #38
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Yeah, because keeping guys like Frank Mir juiced up so he can waddle into the cage and get his brain rattled some more is a real achievement in scientific progress and fighter health.
Guillotine was close.


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for the love of god... its fucking 2014 and people in sherdog still believe this?
i could show you the rules, but it is a moot point now that it is forbidden.

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Bad. It was done to appease vocal critics of the sport (who don't watch anyway) and mouth-breathing fans.

Eventually something like Pride will come along (again) where it's all about the spectacle and not the perceived morality of the fighters and no one outside of a few cellar dwellars will give a shit about orgs like the ufc (again)

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