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Old 08-09-2014, 10:25 AM   #21
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You were on the right track but then that happened.

Race is our identity, its who we are, by denying race you deny a person's experience. It also makes it damn uncomfortable to talk about race issues when people are so afraid to call a black guy a black guy.
The Human race dude.

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Old 08-09-2014, 10:25 AM   #22
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Black on black crime never turns out the way people expect.

Off the top of my head:

Jones/evans was a dud.
Jones/Jackson was a dud.
King Mo/Jackson was a dud
Evans/Jackson was a dud
Evans/Davis was a dud.
Jonhson/Guillard was a dud.

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Old 08-09-2014, 10:31 AM   #23
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You were on the right track but then that happened.

Race is our identity, its who we are, by denying race you deny a person's experience. It also makes it damn uncomfortable to talk about race issues when people are so afraid to call a black guy a black guy.
I said mentioning race unnecessarily not talking about it at all. I welcome conversation about race. I don't welcome pointing out someone's race without a valid reason to do so. There's a difference. Also race is only part of our identity. It's really a superficial characteristic which shouldn't have any social importance. Society makes race out to be important when it shouldn't be.

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Old 08-09-2014, 10:34 AM   #24
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Jones is spooked, that's why the veil is slipping, Gus showed him he was human and he is now confronted with the very real possibility of losing and losing bad.
That's a pretty hilarious assumption considering Bones is the GOAT Light Heavy and currently in his prime. Lose bad?

You better wake up and realize that Bones is better than DC and Gus. That is not to say that DC can't win, it is a fight after all, but to imply Jones is just some guy, just some pretender that has been exposed, and now he is afraid everyone is going to find out he is not the fighter we all think he is....

No. He destroys DC at 178.

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Old 08-09-2014, 10:48 AM   #25
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I said mentioning race unnecessarily not talking about it at all. I welcome conversation about race. I don't welcome pointing out someone's race without a valid reason to do so. There's a difference. Also race is only part of our identity. It's really a superficial characteristic which shouldn't have any social importance. Society makes race out to be important when it shouldn't be.
Perhaps I misunderstand, it just sounded like you were one of those "I don't see race" people who seem to dominate society nowadays.

And you're right, it is a small part of our identity, unfortunately the way our society works, that small part of our identity casts a giant shadow over us. In order to say race is a social construct and is superficial, we first need to fix the issues and effects race cause, because even though it isn't real it still holds tremendous power over us.

I'm really surprised I'm having a discussion about race that isn't about the inferiority of Asians in sports or rationalizing black success in sports.

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Old 08-09-2014, 10:56 AM   #26
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Don't jinx it.

Just remembering how Evans/Jackson went, I still can't believe I fell for that one. That was the last time I bought the pre fight hype for any UFC card.

"I'm gonna knock you clean out!" Yeah right.

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Old 08-09-2014, 11:22 AM   #27
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Black on black crime never turns out the way people expect.

Off the top of my head:

Jones/evans was a dud.
Jones/Jackson was a dud.
King Mo/Jackson was a dud
Evans/Jackson was a dud
Evans/Davis was a dud.
Jonhson/Guillard was a dud.
Kimbo / Alexander was a dub

Rumble / Davis was not a dud for Rumble fans

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