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Old 07-02-2014, 10:20 PM   #81
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No, with TRT, there was the illusion that he wasn't using it as a Performance Enhancer, but only using it to get himself up to a normal level...there was also the perception that he was being regularly tested because he was fighting in 'Murica.

Now, if you look at Vitor, you'd see there was outrage about his being on TRT because he was fighting in Brazil, and there was the perception that he wasn't being regularly tested.


For example, look at the outrage there was in Baseball based on the hitters in the 90's...there wasn't any testing in baseball during the 90's or prior for PEDs, so anyone could have used them, but once people found out the names of those that were using, they became shunned. Guys with Hall of Fame Careers became pariahs to the media and the fans. Bonds, McGwire, Sosa (no evidence against him) all got crucified in the media.
Because those guys all took banned substances. Hendo, Mir, Duffee, Griffen, and rampage all take THE EXACT SAME substance and its cool, because its within the rules. Most didnt even pretend it was for anything other than performance. It was within the rules though, so it was totally fine.

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Old 07-02-2014, 10:23 PM   #82
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Lol, that's a nice way of saying Chael doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell of winning, even if he were juiced up to the gills

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Old 07-02-2014, 10:26 PM   #83
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Given the chances everyone is giving Chael of hanging with Galvao, do we all agree Weidman is a straight up grappling savant for damn near choking Galvao out when Weidman had only been training bjj for 9 months?

Seriously, if you haven't watched that match, google it and watch it, remembering one guy is a multiple time world champ and one of the handful of best grapplers on the planet, and the other guy was training bjj for less than a year. Ridiculous.

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Old 07-02-2014, 10:29 PM   #84
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I do agree that PEDs or not, Sonnen will have nothing for Galvao in a submission-only competition. However, it is still not a good look for the organization as they are basically condoning participants to use something as villified and looked down upon as PEDs.

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Old 07-02-2014, 10:30 PM   #85
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Because those guys all took banned substances. Hendo, Mir, Duffee, Griffen, and rampage all take THE EXACT SAME substance and its cool, because its within the rules. Most didnt even pretend it was for anything other than performance. It was within the rules though, so it was totally fine.
Most people didn't care after Sonnen's first failed test this year because he stated the substances weren't PEDs, and that he was using them to combat the effects of the TRT treatment that he was coming off of....hell the President of the company came on national television to defend him for it.

It's about getting an unfair advantage over your opponent, not breaking rules. Most people dont care about the Diaz brothers smoking weed, because they don't see it as a competitive advantage.

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basically "we desperately need his star power, so um yeah..."

that's cool. just wish you'd be straight up about it though

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Old 07-02-2014, 11:34 PM   #87
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Most people didn't care after Sonnen's first failed test this year because he stated the substances weren't PEDs, and that he was using them to combat the effects of the TRT treatment that he was coming off of....hell the President of the company came on national television to defend him for it.

It's about getting an unfair advantage over your opponent, not breaking rules. Most people dont care about the Diaz brothers smoking weed, because they don't see it as a competitive advantage.
People didnt care the first couple times Sonnen popped because he would debase himself in entertaining ways. No one feels sympathetic for the guys taking roids for his injured back, but everyone gets a good laugh from the guy with tiny balls. He basically lifted his whole excuse strategy from this episode of south park.

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