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Old 12-27-2013, 07:28 AM   #41
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finshes are always better. (not saying they prove who will win a fight more times on average)


having a fighter tap you saying "no more" or a ref jumping in to protect another fighter is more dominant than the judges saying you won.

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Old 12-27-2013, 07:30 AM   #42
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A "GSP decision"? no generally no, a "Fedor/Nog decision" often yes.

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Old 12-27-2013, 07:34 AM   #43
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Fight game is all about exploiting your opponents errors during the fight.

Nothing is bigger than finishing your opponent by capitalizing on those errors.

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Old 12-27-2013, 07:41 AM   #44
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It can be.

Everybody loves a finish, but being a fighter who normally finishes fights.. he can prove to people that he can go say, 25 minutes and win dominantly. I think it could be good for your career, it shows that you can do 5 rounds and still win and that you don't only rely on finishing the fight quickly.

Like Jose Aldo said, it's good to go to a decision sometimes so you can showcase all of your skills and prove that you can still win after a 25 minute fight instead of finishing them brutally.

If we're talking about Georges St. Pierre, it would be nice to see a finish, and even though I'm not a big fan of his style, the fact he goes 25 minutes and often just dominates his opponent and makes them look so amateur is pretty amazing.

Honestly, I prefer to see fights that go to a decision instead of a finish. I like long fights, I prefer them to be exciting, back-and-forth, and a good showcase of technique more than a knock out in the first round.

I also really like to watch two high level jiu-jitsu guys roll for 15-25 minutes and show how high level they are, making it a good back-and-forth fight. Joe Lauzon's submission over Varner is one of the most beautiful triangles I have ever seen. The whole scramble and Joe sinking in that triangle during a transition the way he did was really refreshing to watch. It's nice to see somebody pull those kinds of things off at this level of MMA.

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Old 12-27-2013, 07:59 AM   #45
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Let's imagine there are two fighters who both fought the same 10 opponents. Fighter A loses all fights by KO or submission early in the fight and fighter B loses them all on decision. I think we'd all agree both are bad fighters, but fighter B would be slightly better than A.

If GSP would have finished all his opponents in the first round, I'd also consider him a better fighter than I do now.

I think the problem is that some people view this discussion in the light of a fighters carreer or at least multiple fights, and others look at individual fights. If you look at individual fights ofcourse you're gonna find examples where a decision is better than a finish, but in general I think it's obvious that a finish ranks higher.

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Old 12-27-2013, 08:08 AM   #46
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Not necessarily.

I do however believe that quick first round KO's while "cool" are not (usually) indicative of much.

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Old 12-27-2013, 08:09 AM   #47
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Finishes don't always mean "exciting fight". Was CC vs Mir exciting before the finish?
Decisions don't always mean "boring". Was Sanchez vs Melendez boring?

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Old 12-27-2013, 09:03 AM   #48
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No. This is a stupid new development that came about when GSP (one of the most popular fighters in history) stopped finishing fights.

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Old 02-15-2014, 09:29 PM   #49
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ya.

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Old 02-15-2014, 09:33 PM   #50
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If you beat the hell out of someone and stop them no one will say it was lucky. The same way that people won't complain about a decision win if it is decisive.

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