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Old 08-21-2013, 12:39 AM   #31

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Originally Posted by jiujitsuforever View Post
people are just understanding his style now, its not so shocking and confusing
Arguable, other than opponents being much less aggressive, because they know the judges screw over Machida because he doesn't fight like a Boxer/Wrestler. I thought it was pretty obvious that he won against Page and Davis, but I don't think he'd have the same problem with decisions at MW, where he fits better physically.

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Old 08-21-2013, 12:45 AM   #32

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I don't think so. It was a year ago when he fought Bader, and he looked extremely fast and accurate in that fight. I remember reading that Machida had an ankle injury during the fight against Davis. Maybe that would explain why he wasn't moving around as much as he normally does.

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Old 08-22-2013, 12:08 AM   #33

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May be a little bit. His straight left is not fast as it used to be

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Old 08-22-2013, 12:18 AM   #34

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It's an odd situation.

He was KTFO'd by Shogun for fighting out of character, and put to sleep by Jones, who is simply a monster.

Against Rampage and Davis, he wasn't particularly impressive, but I'm also hesitant to say either of those guys "figured his style out".

People understand his game better, that's for sure. On the other hand, he's also added some new things that he didn't have during his physical prime, which have been discussed earlier in this thread.

If anything, he just needs to see how he fairs at 185, or take a few more risks in order to do more damage. His elusive style is lending itself to close decisions. That's not a smart game to play in MMA at this stage, given the sport's history of seemingly random judges' scorecards.

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Old 08-22-2013, 03:07 AM   #35
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It would be cool if Machida fights till he is like 55. He would be like an old Karate man from the age of the samurais. Straight out of a fucking movie.

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Old 08-22-2013, 03:09 AM   #36

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lol so I'll assume you're in favor of the idea of Machida dropping to MW?

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Old 08-22-2013, 03:11 AM   #37

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Old 08-22-2013, 03:24 AM   #38
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Lyoto isnt dependent on athleticism like other top fighters
He has aged very well and altho he isnt physically what he was a couple years ago hes still in the latter stages of his prime

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Old 08-22-2013, 03:26 AM   #39

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yep 35 is way past prime.

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I think so, to start with, the guy is 35, in pro sports that is considered over the hill the vast majority of the time, especially in a sport this damn grueling. We've seen too many Coutures and Dan Hendersons which seems to lead us to forget this. And add to that the fact that his fight mileage at this point is very high as well and so yes, he is in the clear twilight of his career and it is doubtful he will get another UFC title shot of any kind again.

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