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Old 08-09-2014, 08:48 PM   #91
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Not true at all
Yeah because dc fought about his natural weight class.

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Old 08-09-2014, 09:12 PM   #92
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No, that is not what prime means.

Bas ruten is not the only one who says a fighters prime is in his early 30's. It is also stated in boxing that a boxer hits his prime in his early 30's, when their skills/traits align with their experience.

Ortiz, Thiago and Rashad fought a Machida who was not as experienced as the one who fought Jones.

You are on here comparing fighters losing to men who on a different caliber than who they fought early on. Both were 32/33 and the age Cain is now and barely had 20 fights to their name. A fighters prime can come earlier but what you are talking about is physical prime, which is not the same as a fighters Prime.
I think you're the one describing physical prime, which for most men is in their early thirties. Fighting prime varies depending on how many fights they've had and against what level of competition, regardless of age. Machida had more experience when he fought Jones but mostly from losses including a KO. How can he be in his prime then? The Machida that beat Rashad 2.5 years earlier was prime.

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Old 08-09-2014, 09:14 PM   #93
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Barnett had won 8 in a row when he faced DC. Bigfoot had just beat Fedor. So yeah, Jones talking out of his a$$ like usual.
big foot would stomp any of Jones past opponents including Jon himself.

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Old 08-09-2014, 09:42 PM   #94
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This is true. The only exception is Gustaffson.
Man the revisionist history on here is CRAZY

Despite the irrefutable FACTS

Gustaffson has 1 top 10 win against Shogun who at that point was essentially washed up.

Many of Jones victories (Shogun, Machida, Rampage and Rashad) were against fighters that were in their prime at the time and very recent champions. A couple had 1 or 2 career losses

As soon as Jones beat them, they were washed up.

The EXACT same will be said abouit DC and Gus when they loose to Jones
"DC and Gus were washed up when Jones beat them"

If Jones has beat wash outs. What does that say about Gus and the rest of the UFC fighters victories?

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Yeah because dc fought about his natural weight class.
So hes fighting at his unnatural weight class now?

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Old 08-09-2014, 09:45 PM   #96
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Same with Bones' resume.
Not true. Seven fighters Jones faced in Championship fights were TOP 5 in the UFC for LHW at that time. DC never faced anyone TOP 5 in the UFC except Big Foot. Barnes and Mir were definitely already beyond their prime when DC faced them. Roy Nelson was not Top 5 either. DC never faced Cain, JDS, Werdum, Browne, Lesnar, Carwin, plus others who were in the TOP 5 during DC's MMA career.

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