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Old 07-22-2014, 10:59 PM   #491
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Lol how is Cotto on/was a decline?
He's just another hater that wants to use regurgitated lame unproven reasons to justify his hatred for Floyd Mayweather Jr. and/or his accomplishments. Just look at how many Champions he has fought over the lat 17 years (83% of all his fights since first winning a belt, were either to defend or win a belt against a Champion, former Champion or a TODAY current Champion)24 of his last 29 fights. 11 of his last 13 fights have been Championship belt fights, including His last 5 straight fights have been against guys coming off of career defining wins. And he's won all of them pretty easily and convincing (including the Maidana fight). Don't hate on the guy cause he beats Champions of this era as if they are level B or C pros. And especially drop the notion because he and Pacman never fought that his achievements have been worthless. If you feel that way then you have to say the same thing for Pacquiao.

Yes Floyd is the most accomplished, greatest Boxer of this era.

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Old 07-23-2014, 12:07 AM   #492
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He's just another hater that wants to use regurgitated lame unproven reasons to justify his hatred for Floyd Mayweather Jr. and/or his accomplishments. Just look at how many Champions he has fought over the lat 17 years (83% of all his fights since first winning a belt, were either to defend or win a belt against a Champion, former Champion or a TODAY current Champion)24 of his last 29 fights. 11 of his last 13 fights have been Championship belt fights, including His last 5 straight fights have been against guys coming off of career defining wins. And he's won all of them pretty easily and convincing (including the Maidana fight). Don't hate on the guy cause he beats Champions of this era as if they are level B or C pros. And especially drop the notion because he and Pacman never fought that his achievements have been worthless. If you feel that way then you have to say the same thing for Pacquiao.

Yes Floyd is the most accomplished, greatest Boxer of this era.
I think Floyd is definitely the greatest fighter of his generation, and that includes all combat sports. He's been dominant for 17 years, often making good fighters look very ordinary.

It's a shame that he loses some esteem from the public for his antics outside of the ring. But inside the ring he is like an artist.


Honorable mention: Manny Pacquiao & Anderson Silva.

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Old 07-23-2014, 09:55 AM   #493
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I think Floyd is definitely the greatest fighter of his generation, and that includes all combat sports. He's been dominant for 17 years, often making good fighters look very ordinary.

It's a shame that he loses some esteem from the public for his antics outside of the ring. But inside the ring he is like an artist.


Honorable mention: Manny Pacquiao & Anderson Silva.
i have trouble calling him the greatest fighter of his generation if he would get taken down and submitted by a 135 pound woman.

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Old 07-23-2014, 09:57 AM   #494
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He's just another hater that wants to use regurgitated lame unproven reasons to justify his hatred for Floyd Mayweather Jr. and/or his accomplishments. Just look at how many Champions he has fought over the lat 17 years (83% of all his fights since first winning a belt, were either to defend or win a belt against a Champion, former Champion or a TODAY current Champion)24 of his last 29 fights. 11 of his last 13 fights have been Championship belt fights, including His last 5 straight fights have been against guys coming off of career defining wins. And he's won all of them pretty easily and convincing (including the Maidana fight). Don't hate on the guy cause he beats Champions of this era as if they are level B or C pros. And especially drop the notion because he and Pacman never fought that his achievements have been worthless. If you feel that way then you have to say the same thing for Pacquiao.

Yes Floyd is the most accomplished, greatest Boxer of this era.
the maidana fight was not easy nor convincing. it took floyd 5 rounds of laying on the ropes half-asleep to wake up.

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Old 07-23-2014, 10:26 AM   #495
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What's all this agenda talk? I didn't even bring up the topic. Somebody said Floyd missed weight, and somebody else challenged it and said he did NOT miss weight.

Then I offered the evidence available for saying he did miss weight. There's no agenda, you guys take this way too seriously.

People debated who won the Canelo vs Lara fight...did they all have agendas? People debate everything on here.

I'm finding that people on here are so used to people absolutely hating Floyd or absolutely loving Floyd, that saying anything about him puts you in a category.

I'm not in one of those categories. Relax, no agenda. Just debating a contract.

Voice of Treason - Everybody agrees to be 100% sure the contract needs to be seen, yet everybody still gives their opinion. Not sure why that is only directed at me.
Nothing you offered was factually inaccurate. As a matter of fact, you have been the only one to provide sources.

And people (mostly those debating against you) have convulted the argument from, "missing weight" to "violating the contract."

Floyd Mayweather came in over weight so they had to amend the initial agreement and financially compensate JMM.

Personally, I don't think the 2 pounds would have mattered and PBF would have won easily either way.

And it was understandable why he was overweight, he was coming off a year and a half break, and nursing a rib injury.

I don't see why the PBFCSC gets all up in arms over any and all criticism of Mayweather.

Mayweather was overweight on the initial agreed weight. That cannot be disputed.

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Old 07-23-2014, 11:29 AM   #496
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Nothing you offered was factually inaccurate. As a matter of fact, you have been the only one to provide sources.

And people (mostly those debating against you) have convulted the argument from, "missing weight" to "violating the contract."

Floyd Mayweather came in over weight so they had to amend the initial agreement and financially compensate JMM.

Personally, I don't think the 2 pounds would have mattered and PBF would have won easily either way.

And it was understandable why he was overweight, he was coming off a year and a half break, and nursing a rib injury.

I don't see why the PBFCSC gets all up in arms over any and all criticism of Mayweather.

Mayweather was overweight on the initial agreed weight. That cannot be disputed.
Even if you disagree, if someone is providing evidence to support their opinion then they're already doing more than most posters on here. I provided a quote from Floyd's business partner and promoter saying that he was overweight and paid a penalty.

The response?

"Yo you got an anti-Floyd agenda"


This board is a bit sensitive about him. Why is that? Floyd's fine, he doesn't need anyone to go overboard like that to defend him.

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Old 07-23-2014, 12:04 PM   #497
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Nothing you offered was factually inaccurate. As a matter of fact, you have been the only one to provide sources.

And people (mostly those debating against you) have convulted the argument from, "missing weight" to "violating the contract."

Floyd Mayweather came in over weight so they had to amend the initial agreement and financially compensate JMM.

Personally, I don't think the 2 pounds would have mattered and PBF would have won easily either way.

And it was understandable why he was overweight, he was coming off a year and a half break, and nursing a rib injury.

I don't see why the PBFCSC gets all up in arms over any and all criticism of Mayweather.

Mayweather was overweight on the initial agreed weight. That cannot be disputed.
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Even if you disagree, if someone is providing evidence to support their opinion then they're already doing more than most posters on here. I provided a quote from Floyd's business partner and promoter saying that he was overweight and paid a penalty.

The response?

"Yo you got an anti-Floyd agenda"


This board is a bit sensitive about him. Why is that? Floyd's fine, he doesn't need anyone to go overboard like that to defend him.

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There's an argument to be made, but I believe Hopkins was greater.

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There's an argument to be made, but I believe Hopkins was greater.
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Old 07-23-2014, 12:18 PM   #500
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There's an argument to be made, but I believe Hopkins was greater.
Roy Jones proved to be better than Hopkins though. RJJ fell off very rapidly, while Hopkins has continued being a decent boxer, but I don't think Hopkins even enters this discussion because there was never a moment in time when I'd consider Hopkins the top P4P fighter.

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