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Old 02-04-2013, 08:30 PM   #21
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OFFICIAL UFC RANKINGS ARE AS FOLLOWS

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Champion : Jon Jones
1 Dan Henderson
2 Lyoto Machida
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5 Antonio Rogerio Nogueira
6 Rashad Evans
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Don't get how Phil Davis beat Nog and Gus, yet is ranked below them.

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Old 02-04-2013, 08:39 PM   #22
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Of course Rashad is should be ranked ahead of Lil Nog. This happens all the time in college football. A mediocre team upsets one of the top teams and they are still ranked way below the team they beat. The best fighter doesn't always win.
I understand and that's a better system, but those teams also play over a dozen games a year. And yea, I know if the #150 tennis player in the world beats Djokovic, Djokovic stays #1 and #150 might move up to #80, but those guys play a lot of matches. They come much closer to a true long term pecking order.

Fighters have one or two fights a year, sometimes less. So the most recent fight ends up weighing most heavily in the rankings.
For example:
Fedor went years without losing, then he lost to Werdum. Suddenly Werdum was ranked #2 and Fedor was ranked #3.
Arlovski was #2 at the time he lost to Brett Rogers (not even Top 20). Suddenly Rogers was in the Top 10 and one rank ahead of Arlovski.
Waggney Fabiano had a nice streak going at one time at FW. Then, out of the blue, he got caught in a triangle by Mackens Semezier. Sure enough, Fabiano (then #3 FW) dropped to #8, and Semezier, who wasn't even Top 100 before that fight, was ranked ahead of Fabiano.

The point of this thread is that putting Rashad over Lil Nog seems to be without any precedence in the MMA world of rankings.
Has there every been a situation where Fighter A beats Fighter B, and then Fighter B is ranked higher immediately after that fight?

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Old 02-04-2013, 08:42 PM   #23
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Think of it this way, if an NFL team has 10 wins and 3 losses and they lose to a team that has 3 wins and 10 losses, in terms of where they are ranked on the ladder, does that make them worse than the team they lost to?

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Old 02-04-2013, 08:42 PM   #24
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as pissed as i am about the fight, personally i still have rashad above lil nog

Regardless, in a media/public top 10, rashad shouldnt be above nog

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Old 02-04-2013, 08:45 PM   #25
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Official UFC ranking have Rashad at 6, and Lil Nog at 5. That is what matters.
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Old 02-04-2013, 08:47 PM   #27
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I can understand why but don't agree with it, when Boetsch lost to Costa he didn't stay ranked ahead of him. When Shogun lost to Henderson and Gustafsson, they both got ranked ahead of him, etc. Just comes across as very biased

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If Davis' win over lil-nog was more impressive than the blanket fest you might have a point.

Defeating Rashad who's a stronger wrestler than Davis or Bader should do a lot to make up for those razor thin losses.

Also Lil-Nog hasn't lost two in a row, nor has anyone at lhw done anything other than just squeak by him since he's entered the ufc.
He has lost two in a row in the UFC, arguably 3 since a lot of people thought he lost to Brilz. This is obviously a subjective situation since you can make a case for each guy being ranked ahead of the other based on wins in the division and the reality is most people are left wondering what happened to Rashad, not marveling at how impressive Nog was. After a fairly lackluster UFC career Lil Nog shouldn't spring that far up the ladder because he beat a guy that was clearly taking him lightly and considering retirement. If he didn't have several recent losses to fringe contenders it would be one thing, but he does. Despite the loss, Rashad has the more impressive recent résumé.

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