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Old 01-16-2014, 06:54 PM   #141
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Originally Posted by RoninJin View Post
..a champion that clears out the entire WW division. Although his method may not revolve on him finishing them, but it gets the job done. He was also never a cheat, which is a huge plus.
Well, to be fair he's had people cheat for him.

Ala Greasegate.

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Old 01-17-2014, 02:50 AM   #142

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Originally Posted by bat_country View Post
Documented opinions by the people who write about the sport. They start as opinions but become RANKINGS.
Actually most of GSP's defenses are better than Andersons.

Oh and you can't count the first Franklin because it's not a defense of the belt. Unless you let GSP count Hughes (twice).

All champions want to WIN. Period. Like Anderson did against Leites. Like he did against Maia. Funny how you avoid talking about those performances. Or Cote.

Finishing is one way of doing that. The other is by the scorecards.
Neither is by default a better way to win than the other. You need the context of the fight too.

As far as Fedor's defenses in Pride it's been brought up many times yet you choose to ignore it. Here are ALL of his Pride defenses:
1. def. interim champion Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira at Pride Shockwave 2004 on Dec 31, 2004 in Saitama, Japan by Unanimous Decision

2. def. Mirko Filipović at Pride Final Conflict 2005 on Aug 28, 2005 in Saitama, Japan by Unanimous Decision

3. def. Mark Hunt at Pride Shockwave 2006 on Dec 31, 2006 in Saitama, Japan by Submission (Kimura)

So out of those three times he actually was defending the belt he went the distance twice.

Actually all three of Fedor's best wins (Nog x2 and CroCop) all went the to decision.
Start as opinions, then they turn into fact?All three had amazing streaks to put them into the GOAT talks, Fedor and Silva could finish top fighters... GSP wasn't great enough and that's what seperates them... What's so hard to grasp about that? Okay MMA school is back, The reason Fedor is in the GOAT talks is because of his win streak against the best in the world... Like GSP, but Fedor was great enough to finish his opponents. Lets use some common sense, GSP would PREFER to get the KO or submission then a lackluster points win, but he can't try to if he wants to win the fight, unlike Silva and Fedor.

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Old 01-17-2014, 02:53 AM   #143

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Originally Posted by bat_country View Post
Well you seem to be giving Anderson a pass for it.

Just like you give him a pass for Takase and Chonan yet Serra totally counts against GSP (even though Serra was GSP's 15th fight while Chonan was Andy's 17th)
I brought up the Serra TKO when you brought up Takase, saying shit happens in MMA. GSP would have more losses if he didn't retire at age 32 after the beating Hendricks gave him

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