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Old 06-21-2014, 09:09 AM   #41

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Their fight wasn't close and in 2008 it would have been even more one sided because Lyoto had never been knocked out yet thus wouldn't worry as much about the H bomb.

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Old 06-21-2014, 10:13 AM   #42

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Old 06-21-2014, 10:25 AM   #43

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I think that style wise Machida was still a tough match up for Hendo and I still think he would have won that fight. I recall Dan fighting Rich Franklin around that time, and even though he won it was a very close fight. With that said, I think Machida would have the capability to do better then Rich. Machida was in a good grove at that time, he beat a few top LHW's around 08/09.

Regarding Machida at MW?? Yah…if he would have made the move earlier I think he would have done very well and been champ for a long time. Anderson at LHW?? Who knows…..he killed everyone but never really fought a top fighter at the time aside from Forrest. I still think Anderson would have the potential to be champ at LHW, the division was Rampage, Couture, Rashad, Shogun, Forrrest, Bader, Chuck at the time.

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Old 06-21-2014, 07:16 PM   #44
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In his prime Shogun was just as fast as Machida and Rashad. Even in the UFC he matched Machidas speed. You are using MMA math as someone else said before, and you are taking examples of Shoguns worst performances. I could easily do the same for Silva.
People also said Shogun was tailor made for Chuck and Machida since he is aggresive and plods forward. Look how that turned out.
I am not saying Shogun would win or even be the favourite, but I am 100 percent sure he would be the best striker Silva has ever faced (excluding Weidman maybe)
If Silva would have fought the same opposition that Shogun did his record would have never been so good.
Weidman' striking is a little difficult to gauge. On one hand he's beat Silva 2x however Silva was on the downward slope of his career, remember how quick Fedor started losing consecutive fights?

Too early to tell.

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Old 06-21-2014, 07:49 PM   #45
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Strongly disagree. I think stylisticaly Andy would have problems with any kind of version of Shogun. And stories when they were training together in chute boxe support my theory not yours. Shogun was supposably beating Andy in sparring all the time. Shogun would actually be one of the harder mathups at lhw for AS
Shogun is a one dimensional fighter with little ground game. He might bang with Anderson standup, but once it hits the ground it's over.

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Old 06-21-2014, 07:54 PM   #46

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Machida still beats 2008 Hendo.

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Old 06-21-2014, 07:56 PM   #47

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Weidman' striking is a little difficult to gauge.

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Old 06-21-2014, 08:36 PM   #48

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Originally Posted by heavenly kaghan View Post
Shogun is a one dimensional fighter with little ground game. He might bang with Anderson standup, but once it hits the ground it's over.
Disagree again Shoguns ground game would be a big factor in beating Andy. More then his striking. You kind of have to remember, Shogun took down every opponent he fought outside of Jones. His ground and pound is crazy. If it would be Shogun landing the same amount of strikes than Sonnen did I guarente it would end badly for Anderson.
To beat Andy he would have to mix his grappling with his striking and use leg kicks a lot.

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Old 06-21-2014, 08:40 PM   #49

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