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Old 01-22-2014, 07:13 AM   #11

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Not so much experience but the increase of experienced trainers, usually ex-fighters, and relative ease nowadays of finding a complete MMA gym with BJJ, MT and wrasslin' all in one roof.

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Old 01-22-2014, 07:14 AM   #12

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You are seeing much better athletes fighting now than you had 10 years ago.

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Old 01-22-2014, 07:17 AM   #13

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some guys have 20+ years of experience wrestling, and they do pretty well in mma.

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Old 01-22-2014, 07:17 AM   #14

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Weidman and Brock were both top wrestlers before coming to MMA.
Yeah, it's not like they didnt have experience. Stud wrestlers have had hundreds and hundreds of matches. Combine a advantageous skill-set, modern training and athleticism and it goes a long way.

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Old 01-22-2014, 07:22 AM   #15

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If you're enough of a skilled beast and know what you're doing then it probably doesn't make much of a difference.

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Old 01-22-2014, 07:29 AM   #16

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Some of the best fighters in the last few years are not only young in age, but haven't had many fights and are seriously lacking in experience by leaps and bounds compared to some of their competitors. It kind of doesn't even make sense.
Experience will always matter, among other things.

However, we have to keep in mind that for every minute of experience you may have, that's a minute of tape your opponent has available to watch and learn.

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Old 01-22-2014, 10:06 AM   #17

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It helps because experienced fighters are typically more relaxed in the cage. But it's not the only factor by any means.

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Old 01-22-2014, 10:13 AM   #18

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I think people got a bit too drawn into the idea that everyone in MMA needs 3-4 years or 10+ fights to reach a high level. Just like boxing a lot of the reason why many guys careers in MMA evolve that way isn't because they need the experience but because it makes promotional sense to build them up slowly.

Go back 10-15 years and MMA was full of guys who went in at the deep end very early but still had a lot of success, the likes of Crocop, Fedor, Hunt, Hendo, Nog, Randy etc were fighting and beating some of the best opponants in the world within a year or two of their debuts.

The difference was IMHO that in Japan achievements in other sports counted for a lot more with the fans, someone with high level Judo, Kickboxing, BJJ, Wrestling etc credentials was instantly credible in a way they aren't in the US today.

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Old 01-22-2014, 10:24 AM   #19
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Cain, Brock and Weidman were all collegiate wrestlers, do you know what wrestlers go through? they have probably been wrestling for 10+ years and have lots of experience from wrestling which has helped their MMA careers...great wrestlers do great in MMA

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