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Old 03-09-2014, 04:45 PM   #31
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Every great champ goes through this.

They clean the big name veterans out of the division and then get fed a steady diet of hungry lions.

I think it's harder to consistently beat fighters that are hungry, looking up to you, gunning for you, than it is to run through some former champs closer to the ends of their careers than the beginnings, who maybe didn't take you as seriously or aren't as hungry.

I think GSP walked away because it's becoming increasingly difficult for him to stay as motivated as his opponents. That, and Jonhy Hendricks. Anyway, I'm more impressed by GSP beating Condit, Hendricks, and Nick Diaz than I am by him beating Matt Hughes, BJ Penn, and Matt Serra.

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Old 03-09-2014, 04:49 PM   #32
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It's just revisionist history. It'll happen again if Jones gets through Glover. Gus again, and Cormier.

"Glover was another old LHW that Jones faced at the right time. His chin was always suspect and never really had any top wins to deserve the shot."

"Cormier was another old, undersized LHW that Jones wouldn't have beat without his gigantic frame. Cormier could make MW quite frankly."

"So Jones beat Gus this time big whoop. They're 1-1 now in my book. We need a rubber match. Besides if Gus had gotten an immediate rematch then he would have finished off the job he started since Jones was still recovering. Gus is still his only good win over a prime opponent and we still don't know for sure who the better fighter is."
Glover ain't young but he is in his prime and hits harder than anyone Jones has faced.

Cormier is not old in MMA years and he is by no means a small dude. He isn't tall but he is stocky as a bull.

As far as his first run, to be honest, Shogun and Rampage were definitely out of their prime and Vitor is a MW. I think his wins over Machida and Rashad are as legit as it gets. Even though Machida was not a big lhw he is one of the best ever IMO, regardless of weight class and Rashad is one of the best lhws ever.

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Old 03-09-2014, 04:50 PM   #33
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Yeah. Beating young hungry skilled fighters is also impressive, and those 3 are skilled.

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Old 03-09-2014, 04:52 PM   #34
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Tack on the winner of Rumble/Davis to that

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Old 03-09-2014, 04:54 PM   #35
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neither is as impressive as beating bonnar-vera-hamill-matyushenko-bader-shogun-rampage-machida-evans-gus-texeira-gus-DC-phil davis

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Old 03-09-2014, 04:55 PM   #36
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another disillusioned pride nut hugger.
Get real and get off Jones nuts.

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Sherdog revisionists are pathetic.

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Old 03-09-2014, 04:59 PM   #38
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They certainly have more name value. But we have to be realistic about when he fought them.

Shogun was finished, Rampage was finished, Machida was 1-2 and took fight on short notice., Rashad was a good win, Belfort is a MW who took the fight on short notice...

Beating Gus, DC and Glover will have more significance because they are fresher, and each pose certain problems.

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They certainly have more name value. But we have to be realistic about when he fought them.

Shogun was finished, Rampage was finished, Machida was 1-2 and took fight on short notice., Rashad was a good win, Belfort is a MW who took the fight on short notice...

Beating Gus, DC and Glover will have more significance because they are fresher, and each pose certain problems.
How many top 10 wins does Glover have? How many top 10 205 wins for D.C.?

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DC lacking wins at 205 doesn't hurt his case the way it hurts that of Glover IMO.

He dropped from HW, he didn't come up from MW after all. Lets not forget that he handled his HW opponents just fine, he wrecked most of them. Sure he didn't look great against Mir, but I chalk that up to him looking ahead to his drop to 205 and Mir actually trying for the first time in who knows how long. Also, more likely than not he will have to take another fight at 205 to keep his spot in line for a TS.

Sure he fought a Barista on short notice, but he did exactly what he was supposed to and straight clowned him. He was ready and willing to fight Rashad in his first fight at 205. He is a fearless beast. Jones should be worried.

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