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Old 07-13-2014, 09:57 AM   #201
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Not even close...watch the Arona fight,bigger,better,more skilled grappler by a mile.

Saku was entertaining and innovative but in terms of pure grappling,Arona was a few levels above.
A few weight divisions above.

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Old 07-13-2014, 10:02 AM   #202
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A few weight divisions above.
Arona outgrappled anyone and everyone from Fedor,Mark Kerr,Einemo, and Overeem to Wanderlei,Hendo,Dean Lister and Vitor.

Weight divisions had nothing to do with it,he's a better grappler than Sakuraba.

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Old 07-13-2014, 10:33 AM   #203
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Arona would certainly be near the top when it comes to controlling positional grapplers although I do think size and physical decline were issues against Saku.

I'd add as well that dispite Pride being famous for knees/kicks/stomps on the ground Saku's career was really built before those elements came in and he never fully adapted to them.

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Old 07-13-2014, 10:37 AM   #204
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Maia's the best, Saku & Penn are the p4p greatest.

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Old 07-14-2014, 07:25 AM   #205
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