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Old 07-26-2014, 02:40 PM   #211
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I thought Lima was allowed to cut more weight.
She was allowed to cut more once. Normally, you can re-try however many times for up to 2 hours.


Kelvin Gastelum attempted 3 or 4 times at UFC 171 vs Rick Story. Lima after she attempted it just once and came a little bit short, was told the same thing as Matt Brown by the docs.

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Old 07-26-2014, 02:48 PM   #212
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She was allowed to cut more once. Normally, you can re-try however many times for up to 2 hours.


Kelvin Gastelum attempted 3 or 4 times at UFC 171 vs Rick Story. Lima after she attempted it just once and came a little bit short, was told the same thing as Matt Brown by the docs.
So it came down to the doctors' excuse...

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Old 07-26-2014, 02:55 PM   #213
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So it came down to the doctors' excuse...
You seem to not get it. The Doctor's thing isn't an "excuse". When the Athletic Commissions Doctor advises you to not cut extra weight, you don't say "Fuck you bitch, I got this"

Brown and Lima were willing to lose the extra weight. They weren't allowed to. That's the weird thing about it. I'd understand if they were super drawn out like James Irvin, or had to be carried to the scale like Kelvin Gastelum. But they were fine, just not allowed to. Sure, Brown and Lima are to blame for not making weight on the very first try. But the CSAC is also to blame for all the misinformation and fuck ups.

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Old 07-26-2014, 03:02 PM   #214
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It is not automatic you get a 2nd chance.
If the doctors think it has a risk it is there right to advice the commission to stop the cut.
  1. Has any fighter been stopped from even making the attempt?
  2. How bad did Brown look at the weigh-ins?

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Old 07-26-2014, 03:08 PM   #215
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When the Athletic Commissions Doctor advises you to not cut extra weight, you don't say "Fuck you bitch, I got this"
You bet your ass I do.

Considering what's at stake, if I think I can make the cut, you better believe I'm making my case. I think almost any fighter in that position would do the same, especially considering the stigma that comes with missing weight.

Consider how many times we've seen a doctor stop a fight at a pause in the action; the vast majority of the time the fighter begs him to let the fight continue. How is this different?

(I'm not saying this is an excuse and I'm not painting Brown as the villain of the piece)

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And I'm placing all of the blame on the CSAC.

I doubt Brown would have had any problems at all cutting the last pound and a half.

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Old 07-26-2014, 03:12 PM   #217
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And I'm placing all of the blame on the CSAC.

I doubt Brown would have had any problems at all cutting the last pound and a half.
Exactly. It's just a big fuck up full of unnecessary decisions, which all could have easily been avoided. What's done is done though might as well enjoy the fights now lol

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Old 07-26-2014, 03:23 PM   #218
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  1. Has any fighter been stopped from even making the attempt?
  2. How bad did Brown look at the weigh-ins?
1. Rumble for the Vitor fight.

2. Looked same as always to me.

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Looks like "any day" was a bad choice.

Dana was correct.
Well guess I need to be tarred and feathered...I still don't believe Dana btw, the whole situation is shady as fuck.

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