Originally Posted by Ughugh
It depends. I'd say Manuwa is quicker at throwing when he's moving and he's got the quicker jab and left hook there but he has a tendency to wind up on some of his other punches. He's a tough match-up for Alex though because he's got the ability to close distance and both of his quick punches are with his lead hand and he's a left handed orthodox so...
AJ is quicker throwing with his feet planted but doesn't offer much going forward and his hands are a bit disconnected with his feet. In his case I'd say he presents more of challenge as a counter puncher which could be a threat but invariably would mean that Alex throws first and gets to have the initiative. As a counter puncher AJ would also have to avoid and then throw which ofc means another step and a pretty decent window for Alex to get out. I could see him landing a few but when he moves forward he'll be eating plenty and the ones he lands on the counter will probably not be enough to knock out Alex.
So all in all to me the more usable speed in terms of Alex is Manuwa's.
You make some good points here. I wasn't really thinking about comparing the two when they're stationary, but, AJ is pretty quick with firing off shots when he is planted where Manuwa is quicker when he is moving, especially with his lead left for instance like you said. I mentioned that as being a very fast punch from him too. That lead left hook definitely caught my attention. His overhand right, which he tried to hit Alex with before catching that right hook on the way out (from Alex) was thrown pretty fast too.