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Old 02-16-2013, 03:59 PM   #11
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LOL at a bunch of nobodies telling fighters how they should train. What do any of you know?

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Old 02-16-2013, 04:05 PM   #12
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Sherdog needs to get off their dick. This is worse than when sherdog was obsessed with Jackson's a few years ago.
jackson guys actually win though.

blackzillians get well established guys who go there and do terrible. these aren't noobs. but i said they were the worst camp over a year ago. good to see some dudes are catching up.

but please, name one case where one of the ufc guys changed camps to go to the BZ and improved or done just as well? maybe you bring up vitor.....or not

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Old 02-16-2013, 04:15 PM   #13
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jackson guys actually win though.

blackzillians get well established guys who go there and do terrible. these aren't noobs. but i said they were the worst camp over a year ago. good to see some dudes are catching up.

but please, name one case where one of the ufc guys changed camps to go to the BZ and improved or done just as well? maybe you bring up vitor.....or not
Ehhh... not sure it was last year, but within the last few years there was a stretch where Jackson guys went on a 9 fight losing streak between UFC and Strikeforce.

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Old 02-16-2013, 04:23 PM   #14
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but please, name one case where one of the ufc guys changed camps to go to the BZ and improved or done just as well? maybe you bring up vitor.....or not
Abel

Abel Trujillo is a great prospect, his last two fights have been excellent. The lighter weight fighters at Imperial are doing well, Sean Soriano just won the CFA featherweight belt in January.

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Old 02-16-2013, 04:31 PM   #15
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Abel

Abel Trujillo is a great prospect, his last two fights have been excellent. The lighter weight fighters at Imperial are doing well, Sean Soriano just won the CFA featherweight belt in January.
i said once of the ufc guys who moved to BZ. meaning, guys who were in the UFC for a while and moved to BZ whilst in the UFC. melvin got worse, rashad got worse, and etc.

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Old 02-16-2013, 04:36 PM   #16
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it's a great example of the grass not being greener on the other side.

this should be called team spite.

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too many egos and nobody is there to tell the fighters STFU and do what I say
This is exactly what the problem is.

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i said once of the ufc guys who moved to BZ. meaning, guys who were in the UFC for a while and moved to BZ whilst in the UFC. melvin got worse, rashad got worse, and etc.
I figured that's what you meant. Those two definitely screwed up at the worst time, when they really needed to do well as leaders on their team.

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Old 02-16-2013, 05:18 PM   #19
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I don't think they should disband, but they should reorganize. This is akin to when professional teams throw money out there and put together "super teams", and people expect them to win everything, but they don't because they don't have the right coaching, and right people doing the right things.

This is the case of the Blackzilians. They have a bunch of top name fighters but they don't have anything to "hold it together" so to speak. They don't have that Greg Jackson, Conrad Pla, Mark DellaGrotte, or someone of that nature. They don't have that head coach/trainer that just commands respect and knows how to formulate training menus and strategies based on the specific fighter, and their opponent. Until they get that guy, they'll always be just a collection of name fighters without a leader not getting tangible results.

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