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Old 02-19-2014, 01:19 PM   #151
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Good post TS, I agree with most you had to say. I think Chris is a very good fighter but I don't see him holding that belt long term MW division has become a very hot place to be even hotter if you the champ.
I would be surprised to see if Weidman holds that belt by the end of 2014.

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Old 02-19-2014, 01:22 PM   #152
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i think he's good, lacks a few things but his well roundedness makes him more dangerous than his technical abilities could do for him.

i don't think he will have more than a couple title defenses nor that he should be in the top 5 P4P discussion.

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Old 02-19-2014, 01:25 PM   #153
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He's the most over rated fighter in the UFC. He's also the most underrated.

It happens. An NFL poll a few years back had Eli Manning win both most over and most under rated player:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/7...-underrated-qb

http://www.rantsports.com/nfl/2013/1...e-of-all-time/

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Old 02-19-2014, 01:25 PM   #154
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Im not really talking about testing weidman's chin or endurance, Im talking about weidman being tested by a general array of elite level of competition. I don't think he's done that.
That depends on who you consider "elite". Maia has elite grappling and didn't have anything for Weidman after having to cut so much weight on short notice without any real training camp. Was Maia an elite fighter at MW? I would say no, but he was pretty good and even better at WW now that he isn't so undersized compared to many of the other MW's (Weidman included). Silva was/is elite and the greatest MW of all time. He wasn't able to test Chris or have him in any kind of danger.

Weidman will have Belfort, Machida, Jacare, Rockhold, Kennedy and others in time to potentially test him everywhere. Belfort's up next obviously but I'm quite positive that his TDD won't be enough to keep Weidman from taking him down and putting a clinic on him with GnP and sub attempts. He hasn't been tested by an array of elite level competition yet but that's just a matter of time. Facing Silva in his last 2 fights is a good start though.

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Old 02-19-2014, 01:28 PM   #155
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Honestly, if he's as good as he seemed against Anderson there is no immediate competition IMO outside if Belfort. One thing people can't deny is yes Anderson could have mounted a comeback but what's fact is that Andy was never having his way with Weidman in 3 or so rounds they spent fighting.

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Old 02-19-2014, 01:36 PM   #156
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That depends on who you consider "elite". Maia has elite grappling and didn't have anything for Weidman after having to cut so much weight on short notice without any real training camp. Was Maia an elite fighter at MW? I would say no, but he was pretty good and even better at WW now that he isn't so undersized compared to many of the other MW's (Weidman included). Silva was/is elite and the greatest MW of all time. He wasn't able to test Chris or have him in any kind of danger.

Weidman will have Belfort, Machida, Jacare, Rockhold, Kennedy and others in time to potentially test him everywhere. Belfort's up next obviously but I'm quite positive that his TDD won't be enough to keep Weidman from taking him down and putting a clinic on him with GnP and sub attempts. He hasn't been tested by an array of elite level competition yet but that's just a matter of time. Facing Silva in his last 2 fights is a good start though.
I would consider the elite. Belfort, Lyoto, Gegard, and jacare(borderline). Silva is certanly elite but like I said I need to see him beat more than one guy. And the way the silva fight ended left me still wanting to see more before I can make an assessment of him. For now, imo he is waaaaaay overrated. I still rate gegard lyoto and belfort above him for now, as they are proven and time tested and highly ranked. I don't think a mma math ranking is an assesment of a fighter, I can't put him ahead of those guys, based on his capability, because of his win over silva.

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Old 02-19-2014, 02:25 PM   #157
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The real question is how butt hurt are the Silva fans to still be making these threads

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Old 02-19-2014, 02:30 PM   #158
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I still think Anderson will be better (as a whole career) but Weidman might be the best fighter on the current roster p4p. Vitor fight tells a lot.

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