Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forums

Go Back   Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forums > Fight Discussion > UFC Discussion

UFC Discussion Discuss UFC, former WEC and former Pride events here.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 02-06-2014, 09:40 PM   #1
nanika

Orange Belt
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 262
vCash: 500
UFC's Problem of the present and future

The UFC is running into the problem that two highly skilled fighters often do not make for an exciting competition.

MMA and the UFC was built on exciting KOs, freak show fights and awesome submissions. The problem is that now almost all UFC fighters have become highly skilled martial artists in multiple disciplines. This results in fights that although technically sound are not exciting for the casual fan. This problem will only get worse as even the lowest level UFC fighters are technically martial arts masters.

Dana White can try to combat this by acting upset at decisions and giving bonus to finishes but the future of the UFC is most likely close decisions between equally skilled fighters.

nanika is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2014, 09:50 PM   #2
cambo78

Black Belt
 
cambo78's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: NY..New York
Posts: 7,477
vCash: 353
It's not necessarily two "highly skilled fighters" competing against each other that's making the UFC "boring". Think of the majority of the main events for the past few years [not saying all]. Jones dominating top fighters, Silva losing, Fedor losing ect. It's mainly the lesser skilled fighters that all have the same generic skillset that are making it a bit lackluster. "Highly skilled fighters" are your Machidas, GSPs, Andersons, Weidmans, Aldos, Jones' ect. When they have matchups with other "top" fighters, it generally seems to be pretty entertaining IMO.

__________________
Fav's
--------------------------
Gokor Chivichyan
Oleg Taktarov
Fedor Emelianenko
Pudpad Noy Worawoot
Rob Kaman
Marco Ruas
Sugar Ray Leonard
cambo78 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2014, 09:54 PM   #3
slayer43

Blue Belt
 
slayer43's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 734
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by nanika View Post
The UFC is running into the problem that two highly skilled fighters often do not make for an exciting competition.

MMA and the UFC was built on exciting KOs, freak show fights and awesome submissions. The problem is that now almost all UFC fighters have become highly skilled martial artists in multiple disciplines. This results in fights that although technically sound are not exciting for the casual fan. This problem will only get worse as even the lowest level UFC fighters are technically martial arts masters.

Dana White can try to combat this by acting upset at decisions and giving bonus to finishes but the future of the UFC is most likely close decisions between equally skilled fighters.
I agree that there are alot of close decisions. But i think that there will always be those exciting kos and subs that keep you coming back. Guys that are that good live on the razors edge that one mistake could lead to them paying with their consciousness or their limb. Which actually makes it more exciting for me.

slayer43 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2014, 09:57 PM   #4
Barret
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,165
vCash: 500
Dana has a fix for that get rid of highly skilled fighters like a Rampage, Fitch and Okami and save a buck to signed cheap fighters with less talent and ability. Cheap fighters are more likely to go all out and risk injury to finish his opponent or be finish.

They have no choice they need to eat. If you put two pathetic lower level fighters at one another you are going to see slop boxing just bleed fights and that is exactly what Dana wants.

Barret is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2014, 09:57 PM   #5
boz

Purple Belt
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Toronto, ON
Posts: 1,566
vCash: 50
Tank vs Ferrazo GOAT

boz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2014, 09:57 PM   #6
Degen Gambler

Brown Belt
 
Degen Gambler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 3,305
vCash: 6835
Ben Henderson and Anthony Pettis are two highly skilled fighters of similar skill.

Bendo Pettis 1 was a close decision.

Bendo Pettis 2 first round stoppage.

Anything can happen in a fight, that's what makes it exciting.

Degen Gambler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2014, 09:59 PM   #7
slayer43

Blue Belt
 
slayer43's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 734
vCash: 500
I think the biggest problem has to do with fighters trying to win a game according to a point system instead of trying to beat their opponent in a fight. I disagree with the "just bleed" mentality but i also would hate to see the sport turn into basically amateur wrestling (not that there is anything wrong with that sport).

slayer43 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2014, 10:02 PM   #8
Sosua

Brown Belt
 
Sosua's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Nouvelle Zealande
Posts: 4,014
vCash: 50
Hmmmm... not really?

In the last year we've seen some of the best battles in memory in the sharp end of the division.

Take away Bendo / Edgar fights and the picture is rather different.

Hendricks Condit is a good example of a competitive, thoroughly entertaining high level clash of styles at the top of the division.

Jone / Gustafsson was absolutely thrilling.

Sosua is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2014, 10:08 PM   #9
Leverage

Yellow Belt
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 234
vCash: 500
Make all title fights a fight to the finish. Or just extend the number of rounds. When they get tired it turns into a slugfest.

Leverage is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2014, 10:09 PM   #10
VulcanNervPinch

Black Belt
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 6,148
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by nanika View Post
The UFC is running into the problem that two highly skilled fighters often do not make for an exciting competition.

MMA and the UFC was built on exciting KOs, freak show fights and awesome submissions. The problem is that now almost all UFC fighters have become highly skilled martial artists in multiple disciplines. This results in fights that although technically sound are not exciting for the casual fan. This problem will only get worse as even the lowest level UFC fighters are technically martial arts masters.

This is all true.

But "rewarding cautious pointfighting" still greatly outweighs "everyone's too good" as a factor in why fights are getting less exciting.

Overeem's last few fights are a prime example.

VulcanNervPinch is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


Latest Threads



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:31 AM.

Sherdog.com Forum Rules Clear Cookies Social Groups Lost Password
Contact Us - Sherdog Forums - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Top - AdChoices

Skin made by Alex. © iStyles.uni.cc Powered by vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
forums.sherdog.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. ©2014 All Rights Reserved.
monitoring_string = "fd5733925866a04e50edd70f38dfaa35"
monitoring_string = "603ac9fff68f23709f2a42bf5e29272b"