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Old 12-04-2013, 11:25 AM   #311
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It's called projections.

You're not going to get trial balance numbers, but you can have an estimate.

For example, this year the UFC is on Par to do 6 million ppv buys, so that's what- 50bucks on average, means 300million in ppv revenue.

Second, 100million/year from the Fox Deal. That's about 400million in Revenue.

Factor in live gate, sponsorship deals, ad revenue, international deals with networks... that's about another 100million bucks in revenue.

So that's about 500million USD in annual revenue for Zuffa. And this is a very basic breakdown. If you count corporate ppvs and really dig into international deals, the number could be much higher. Not to mention internet revenue, merchandise sales, pr events...etc.


Meanwhile, the top guy in the UFC makes 12million a year in revenue.

Sounds like a lot, but consider GSP gets only 10% and Zuffa keeps 90% (estimating he makes 150mil for zuffa)... GSP is the one risking brain damage and being abducted by aliens...

Even Don King isn't that bad.
UFC only gets a portion of ppv buys. The network provider gets a big chunk of it.
You are also not counting the thousands of employees they have to pay besides the fighters

The per event contract employees they have to pay.

They cost of renting a venue.

The cost of insurance for every event.

Shipping and moving HUGE amounts of gear/equipment from venue to venue

Cost of marketing

Costs of expanding in markets.

Costs of flying/transporting a large crew from event to event as well as food and hotel costs.

THE UFC has HUGE expenses to pay for besides just paying fighters money.

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Old 12-04-2013, 04:13 PM   #312
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UFC only gets a portion of ppv buys. The network provider gets a big chunk of it.
You are also not counting the thousands of employees they have to pay besides the fighters

The per event contract employees they have to pay.

They cost of renting a venue.

The cost of insurance for every event.

Shipping and moving HUGE amounts of gear/equipment from venue to venue

Cost of marketing

Costs of expanding in markets.

Costs of flying/transporting a large crew from event to event as well as food and hotel costs.

THE UFC has HUGE expenses to pay for besides just paying fighters money.
I know what expenses are. Not for Zuffa, but in general. But we're not talking about that here because there's no way to get estimates on expenses. So I'm basing my comparisons on revenue for this private company.

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Old 12-04-2013, 04:31 PM   #313
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UFC only gets a portion of ppv buys. The network provider gets a big chunk of it.
You are also not counting the thousands of employees they have to pay besides the fighters

The per event contract employees they have to pay.

They cost of renting a venue.

The cost of insurance for every event.

Shipping and moving HUGE amounts of gear/equipment from venue to venue

Cost of marketing

Costs of expanding in markets.

Costs of flying/transporting a large crew from event to event as well as food and hotel costs.

THE UFC has HUGE expenses to pay for besides just paying fighters money.
Boxers get by just fine with having their own promoters and doing it all themselves. MMA could have belts just like boxing. As an organization, UFC is completely unnecessary. Everyone who would be an MMA fan probably is by now. The market is not underexposed. If GSP decided to fight Hendricks in a rematch outside of UFC and a decent undercard was put together, people would still buy it. The quality of the fights is based on the fighters not anything much UFC contributes. I could imagine people would need the UFC if the organization supplied training and development just like developmental soccer and basketball leagues in europe but they don't.

UFC is like a shitty promoter that takes a bigger than normal cut and as far as your career goes is only interested in how much you can make him in the next fight.

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Old 12-04-2013, 04:35 PM   #314
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I know what expenses are. Not for Zuffa, but in general. But we're not talking about that here because there's no way to get estimates on expenses. So I'm basing my comparisons on revenue for this private company.
Compare it to boxing. For an event, boxers at least accourding to Arum taking home around 80% of an event.

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OR Mayweather who banks 100%

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Old 12-04-2013, 04:46 PM   #316
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if he fights 16 times in 17 weeks it just about averages out with the nfl.

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