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Old 07-23-2014, 04:06 PM   #501
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Roy Jones proved to be better than Hopkins though. RJJ fell off very rapidly, while Hopkins has continued being a decent boxer, but I don't think Hopkins even enters this discussion because there was never a moment in time when I'd consider Hopkins the top P4P fighter.
True, I think RJJ definitely peaked higher than both Hopkins and Mayweather. It's hard to overlook how he fell off when his athleticism/speed/reflexes declined, but I think he was dominant enough in his prime to rank above any as the best of the past gen. Not saying he didn't have good technique, but I always felt it was more reliant on his athletic talents than other greats. It worked for him so you can't really use it much against him for not being the most fundamental guy, or having conventional techniques, though that definitely explains why he didn't have the longevity of guys like Hopkins or Mayweather, who are two of the most skilled ever. He definitely understood how to win, game-plan, cut corners with his movement, use his feints well, unconventional leads/set-ups, etc.

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Old 07-23-2014, 04:24 PM   #502
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i have trouble calling him the greatest fighter of his generation if he would get taken down and submitted by a 135 pound woman.
This has got to be the 4th time you said this in this thread alone.

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Old 07-23-2014, 06:11 PM   #503
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This has got to be the 4th time you said this in this thread alone.
Lol he's saying it like rousey wouldn't take his stupid ass down either.

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