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Old 11-22-2013, 10:41 PM   #41
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The UFC HW division hasn't had all the top 10 HWs in it since pre-2000. It's a good time for HWs atm... The thing is, half the top HWs of today are the same top HWs of 10 years ago. Lots of old men with only Cain and JDS to take the torch.

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Old 11-23-2013, 05:50 AM   #42
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After Werdum, the Barnett/Browne winner is next in line...after that it's a bit unclear. Miocic will get fast-tracked if he beats Gonzaga, if Napao wins, he will probably get someone like Barnett (if he loses to Browne). HW is always gonna be thin as there just aren't many highly skilled guys that big.

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Old 11-23-2013, 05:56 AM   #43
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After Werdum?
Barnett/Browne winner
Miocic/Gonzaga vs Overeem (if he beats Mir)

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Old 11-23-2013, 06:16 AM   #44
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Werdum - Best Submission Hw in the UFC

Barnett - Former UFC Hw champ, Tough as nails, near impossible to stop

JDS - Already beat him once, with a few improvments the 4th fight could be different

Overeem - People have written him off but would anyone back Bigfoot or Browne to get the job done again? I wouldnt. If Overeems Mir expect him to rematch one of these guys and get into contention. Overeem IS a threat to Cain simply because of his Size and strength (will be hard to put against the cage and keep there) and his Knees and guilotine choke are deadly weapons agianst a wrestler looking to take him down.

Hunt - If Hunt beats Bigfoot like I expect you have a man nearly impossible to knockout who can KO can in 1 shot over the 5 rounds. His TDD is looking much better these days. Hunt is the type of fighter that can win against ANYONE if he lands.

Miocic/Gonzaga - The winner of this would be on track to becoming a contender. Id like to see the winner of this matched up with Browne if Barnett beats him.

In short UFC is FAR from short of contenders. Just because Cain beat Junior doesnt mean he beats everyone, styles make fights and if Werdum slaps a triangle on Cain this type of "Hw devision is dead" talk will seem stupid. Hw is the most unpredictable devision because of the much higher finish rate

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Old 11-23-2013, 06:20 AM   #45
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Werdum - Best Submission Hw in the UFC

Barnett - Former UFC Hw champ, Tough as nails, near impossible to stop

JDS - Already beat him once, with a few improvments the 4th fight could be different

Overeem - People have written him off but would anyone back Bigfoot or Browne to get the job done again? I wouldnt. If Overeems Mir expect him to rematch one of these guys and get into contention. Overeem IS a threat to Cain simply because of his Size and strength (will be hard to put against the cage and keep there) and his Knees and guilotine choke are deadly weapons agianst a wrestler looking to take him down.

Hunt - If Hunt beats Bigfoot like I expect you have a man nearly impossible to knockout who can KO can in 1 shot over the 5 rounds. His TDD is looking much better these days. Hunt is the type of fighter that can win against ANYONE if he lands.

Miocic/Gonzaga - The winner of this would be on track to becoming a contender. Id like to see the winner of this matched up with Browne if Barnett beats him.

In short UFC is FAR from short of contenders. Just because Cain beat Junior doesnt mean he beats everyone, styles make fights and if Werdum slaps a triangle on Cain this type of "Hw devision is dead" talk will seem stupid. Hw is the most unpredictable devision because of the much higher finish rate

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Old 11-23-2013, 06:26 AM   #46
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Old 11-23-2013, 06:33 AM   #47
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Only problem someone mentioned as Hw in the UFC doesnt have a lot of young up and comers but the thing that people need to remember is Hw's are generally the oldest across the weight classes, they peak later and they age better.

If you look at the top 40 or so... UFC are really lacking in fighters under 30, But UFC really wants fighters at their Peak and Hw's generally are best around at 30-33 I would say.

UFC doesnt seem to be planning for the future in terms of growing their own tallent but it could be that UFC starts snatching up some of this tallent once they come into their own

Vitaly Minakov (28) - Bellator
Alexander Volkov (25) - Bellator
Ryan Martinez (26) - Bellator
Rich Hale (28) - Bellator
Marcin Tybura (28) - M-1
Magomed Malikov (28) - M-1
Marcin Tybura (28) - M-1
Satoshi Ishii (26) - Free Agent? Shouldnt be at Hw anyway.
Ruslan Magomedov (26) - Battle of Moscow

Junior dos Santos (29) - UFC
Shawn Jordan (29) - UFC
Todd Duffee (27) - UFC (injured)
Stefan Struve (25) - UFC (injured)

People talking about the devision being "weak" is madness, who should UFC sign to make a change?

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Old 11-23-2013, 06:36 AM   #48
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Has the HW division been this weak ever?
lol, it has never been stronger

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