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Old 02-27-2013, 09:09 PM   #31
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a stutter step is a step , a switch kick is a kick .

you can use a stutter step and then add a punch on the end of it , or add a kick on the end of it , or make it look like you are attacking and closing distance , where you actually havent moved forward at all ,

stutter step from orthodox stance : left foot steps back first , then back right foot steps forward and then left foot steps forward , completing the motion , so there are 3 steps , if you want to add a kick with your left leg instead of the last step , that is up to you , or you can complete all 3 steps and throw a punch instead , it is very flexible and a dynamic in motion , the principle behind it is to appear as you are running at or attacking an opponent hard , where in acyauality you can abort and not sacrificed any range , it can be used at close or to gain maximum range

switch kick from orthodox stance ; you can either step back a little or switch your stance totally and kick , there are only 2 motions , if you abort the kick , you will be in unorthodox stance , it is used at close or mid range

in fedors video he clearly corrects a student performing a switch kick and tells him , no , not like that , fedor uses that stutter step alot to set up his leaping punches too

i do see some muay thai guys use a similar step on some of their switch kicks , but its part of the kick , or they also use stutter step ,, it has been around for a while you know
Oh, I know that. There is an old school boxing technique called the "drop shift" that uses the same footwork. I was simply saying that I throw all my switch kicks like that.

This isn't a great example, but here's the boxer's drop shift:


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Old 02-27-2013, 09:16 PM   #32
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EDIT: And I watched the earlier vid and the concept of broken-rhythm is applied in traditional karate. HOwever, it is not a foundational skill or tactic.... And really not critical by any definition....

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Old 02-28-2013, 05:32 AM   #34
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Oh, I know that. There is an old school boxing technique called the "drop shift" that uses the same footwork. I was simply saying that I throw all my switch kicks like that.

This isn't a great example, but here's the boxer's drop shift:

we call that a switch jab , or switch cross , it is very similar , but it still is missing the third forward step , the principle and purpose is the same

why is the word "old school boxing" being used around here so much lately , when i think of old school boxing , i think of two guys with handle bar moustaches , standing straight up and their hands at their waist , and they never used the "drop shift" lol

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It does. I wish I had a group like that around where I live

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Old 02-28-2013, 08:37 AM   #36
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why is the word "old school boxing" being used around here so much lately , when i think of old school boxing , i think of two guys with handle bar moustaches , standing straight up and their hands at their waist , and they never used the "drop shift" lol
u are regular to this forum... u should already know the answer the answer to that... lol.

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Broken Rhythm doesn't have to be an attack. It just means you are breaking your usual rhythm. If I am bouncing up and down, and then I pause like im going to strike, I have broken the rhythm


See @ 1.02, how we switches up the pace in foot work? That's broken rhythm.



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pretty cool stuff, are u mad cus they aren't in a gym, lol

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Yeah sure, if you use it to ATTACK. If you don't attack off of it then it's just fancy footwork! It has to facilitate an attack or else it's pointless. You can dazzle me with all your off kilter footwork but if when you finally do attack it's in a normal rhythm then it's irrelevant.
Not really. The broken rhythm keeps your opponent guessing. You dont have to attack everythime off of it. It keeps you in the dark of what may or may not come. Look at Machida. He stomps his foot down, uses jerky motions, he doesn't attack eveytime he does that. The same way you dont have to attack off of every feint you throw. You throw a feint, and nothing after. Then the next time you feint, you follow it with something or not. Marquez did that constantly to Pacquiao. Keeps them in the dark.

Are you saying you can out box Manny Pacquiao? And that if you were in the ring, you wouldn't have fallen for Marquez' tricks?


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pretty cool stuff, are u mad cus they aren't in a gym, lol
Me Nah. It looks like a lot of fun. I would be down for something like that.

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Not really. The broken rhythm keeps your opponent guessing. You dont have to attack everythime off of it. It keeps you in the dark of what may or may not come. Look at Machida. He stomps his foot down, uses jerky motions, he doesn't attack eveytime he does that. The same way you dont have to attack off of every feint you throw. You throw a feint, and nothing after. Then the next time you feint, you follow it with something or not. Marquez did that constantly to Pacquiao. Keeps them in the dark.

Are you saying you can out box Manny Pacquiao? And that if you were in the ring, you wouldn't have fallen for Marquez' tricks?


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if you attack everytime, wouldn't that be a continuous rhythm; an easier to time/counter because they know everytime you do a certain move, gesture, feint..they know your gonna attack. Because you always attack after this movement, specific, feint, gesture, etc.

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