Sherdog D&S Debate Series

[DevilEyes]

Originally Posted by romistrub

I don't think you'd find anybody for the "against"s.

Okay, here's an interesting one:

A lot of people pay extra for beef that is one or many of the following:

local
grass fed
fed with organic grain
no hormones, anti-biotics, etc.
humanely treated

The one that gets me is the "no hormones / antibiotics" with people that subsequently take hormones / antibiotics themselves. Anyways, I think a debate about that could be warranted.

Hmmm, that might be a good one.

[romistrub]

Originally Posted by DevilEyes

Hmmm, that might be a good one.

To be honest, though, I don't know how large the intersection of "organic food eaters" and "hormone / antibiotic takers" is. Especially with hormones. I don't know very many people that haven't taken antibiotics, though. In which case, the argument reduces to:

Are antibiotics in your food just as bad as antibiotics in you?

The spinoffs being:

- are antibiotics bad for animals?
- does antibiotic A in non-humans have the same effect as antibiotic A in humans?
- how is the effect of antibiotics changed with passage from animal consumption to food to human consumption vs. direct human consumption?

Problems:

- The "organic" standard includes a stipulation against feeding cattle antibiotics. Regardless of whether it's justified, this stipulation is packaged with the rest of the health benefits of the standard (no hormones, whatever). Thus, we couldn't decide to pay less for cattle that have been fed antibiotics, but have all the other benefits of organic, if we wanted to.

Thus, I don't think that the practical implications of this debate topic are great enough.

Next idea.

[mschatz]

Is this going to happen?

[romistrub]

I hope so. The support seems to be shakey, though. I'm sorta already having a debate with Monger about the efficacy of leucine. I'm surprised that thread has received more attention. There's a wicked-cool discussion going on in it

[Monger]

LoL, I sort of just threw in the towel on that debate

I found that I was mostly repeating the same stuff and beating a dead horse. Excellent discussion though, romistrub. I enjoyed it. It's nice to have threads like that on here.

[oyaji poi]

Originally Posted by romistrub

I'm sorta already having a debate with Monger about the efficacy of leucine. I'm surprised that thread has received more attention. There's a wicked-cool discussion going on in it

It's too hard.

[romistrub]

bump...

[Pathogenic]

I think having a comprehensive, final debate on low carb dieting would be extremely beneficial to the forum.

[Modern Warrior1]

I like the idea. I'd like to suggest " the importance of a post workout window, both for single and multiple workouts per day. Discussion includes what should be included in your post workout shake if you use the pwo window."

[CerebralPrimate]

Holy 4 year old bump, Batman!

I'd be interested in the topics mentioned as well, but just keep the debate somewhat civil.