TLI fan boy threatens Keenan's dad

[platfox]

Devnull probably trains at a LI school but I can't figure out what Chulo has to gain by having people stop talking about LI's scandals.

He's expending as much energy as those who are admittingly trying to make sure the discussion stays alive.

[Pizdek]

Originally Posted by Balto

The best way to stop this stuff is to expose it. It's not cover it up and not talk about it because it's inconvenient and hey isn't it easier if we just ignore it and pretend like this complete piece of shit guy is not being a complete piece of shit.

Are you talking about Lloyd Irvin failed rapist who got of gang rape verdict because he was impotent and could not rape the poor 17 year old girl even though he wanted to and later when his two students raped another girl 20 years later he tried to cover his shit up by purchasing lloydirvinrape.com and Phil Proctor, head instructor at Wrightson BJJ in Maryland and a Lloyd Irvin black belt, says that the victim in a 1989 rape case possibly involving Irvin was a "dirty whore" who "got to feeling guilty."

[yovan]

I don't care about what Lloyd did 20 years ago. I do care about Lloyd's actions following the New Tears rape.

The victim deserves justice, not obstructions to justice.

[KGB256]

Originally Posted by yovan

I don't care about what Lloyd did 20 years ago. I do care about Lloyd's actions following the New Tears rape.

The victim deserves justice, not obstructions to justice.

How exactly has Lloyd Irvin done anything to affect the criminal case against Schultz & Maldonado? How has he done anything to obstruct justice? Be specific.

Answer is, he hasn't. The guy posted some YouTube videos to promote a free rape prevention seminar. After that, he started getting blasted for his 1989 case and bought up some domains so people wouldn't use them to build sites against him (which they wound up doing anyway). That's not obstructing justice, as he was already tried and acquitted on his own charges decades ago.

As to the NYE case, he's done literally nothing to impede the criminal case against the assailants and has publicly expressed support for the victim in his initial statement about NYE and his subsequent statement through GracieMag.

The guy was trying to protect himself from people smearing him and his business. You guys can keep making it out to be more diabolical than that, but it's just that simple.

[devnull]

Originally Posted by KGB256

The guy was trying to protect himself from people smearing him and his business. You guys can keep making it out to be more diabolical than that, but it's just that simple.

And nothing wrong with that either. It's his right, especially with idiot internet thugs on relentless and warrant-less attacks.

[lechien]

Originally Posted by devnull

And nothing wrong with that either. It's his right, especially with idiot internet thugs on relentless and warrant-less attacks.

Actually it is not correct.

From what I recall, everybody fell in love finally with li after his success at the latest nogi world.

You see we started to believe that he was onto something big and would create an American team that could beat the brasilians at their own sport.

After the Nye rape, people were saying that li is not responsible etc..he is such a nice guy etc...

Until some dude named balto told the story about what happen twenty years ago.

The skeleton was out of the closest. His past came back to hound him.

The public went berserk.

Suddenly people start realising that we must choose where we stand.

I start scrutinising every relationship and every instructor that encountered in BJJ.

I start asking myself what kind if image I am projecting to my students and how does it affect them?

I start realising that I am more than an BJJ instructor to them. Some of them might actually retain more than the 3 BJJ techniques of the day.

I can tell there are lot of things wrong in BJJ that I took as acceptable before the epic 4 thread about the infamous NYE.

[devnull]

Originally Posted by lechien

Actually it is not correct.

From what I recall, everybody fell in love finally with li after his success at the latest nogi world.

You see we started to believe that he was onto something big and would create an American team that could beat the brasilians at their own sport.

After the Nye rape, people were saying that li is not responsible etc..he is such a nice guy etc...

Until some dude named balto told the story about what happen twenty years ago.

The skeleton was out of the closest. His past came back to hound him.

The public went berserk.

Suddenly people start realising that we must choose where we stand.

I start scrutinising every relationship and every instructor that encountered in BJJ.

I start asking myself what kind if image I am projecting to my students and how does it affect them?

I start realising that I am more than an BJJ instructor to them. Some of them might actually retain more than the 3 BJJ techniques of the day.

I can tell there are lot of things wrong in BJJ that I took as acceptable before the epic 4 thread about the infamous NYE.

LI had nothing to do with the current rape case, his past case everyone is judging off a biased article written by biased reporters. Everyone keeps saying this is the "defacto" because is based on court documents, court documents that no one has seen identified, so you are all going by hearsay.

[lechien]

Originally Posted by devnull

LI had nothing to do with the current rape case, his past case everyone is judging off a biased article written by biased reporters. Everyone keeps saying this is the "defacto" because is based on court documents, court documents that no one has seen identified, so you are all going by hearsay.

Well what can I say. Everyone is entitled to his own opinion and from the information available at the time. It has been more than a month and from what I can no one is really putting bad comment on his fb. I just take it that he no longer has to shut it down or monitor it.

[Jdonw]

Originally Posted by devnull

LI had nothing to do with the current rape case, his past case everyone is judging off a biased article written by biased reporters. Everyone keeps saying this is the "defacto" because is based on court documents, court documents that no one has seen identified, so you are all going by hearsay.

His statement on Gracie Mag is all I need to judge his lack of character.

[lechien]

Originally Posted by devnull

LI had nothing to do with the current rape case, his past case everyone is judging off a biased article written by biased reporters. Everyone keeps saying this is the "defacto" because is based on court documents, court documents that no one has seen identified, so you are all going by hearsay.

Please clarify if that bias. He attempted to penetrate a 17 years girl. The other five guys spent about 15 years each for sodomising her. He thought it was mutual consenting sex.