Religion and the UFC

[nostradumbass]

Well they are fighters. A lot of them grew up rubes from a small town or a Brazilian village. Their job has nothing to do with intellect or education and that is the case with all athletes. If the stats were about physicists or astronomers or doctors or anything else that requires education, there might be a point but beating the shit out of other guys is all I'm after from these people and it's a shame they feel the need to broadcast their religious beliefs.

[BisexualMMA]

Originally Posted by wirerat123

Because most religious MMA fans likely don't waste their time with a buncha "think I'm smarter than I am" anti religion armchair MMA fighters. Being anti religion is the cool thing to do these days.

I was Atheist before Atheist was the in thing to be. Todays Atheists are loud mouthed, arrogant, judgemental, closed minded, assuming, and often times borderline violent toward people that choose to believe differently than them, the rest are just a bunch of overly sensitive drama queens acting like someone speaking about their religion practicing their religion, or wearing a religious emblem is trying to force something on them.

Reading anti-religious threads these days is akin to watching an episode of Jersey Shore. Just a bunch of idiots babbling about something they don't even really understand fully.

They tend to show the exact same qualities they hold against religious people. I'm glad I got over that crap and accepted the fact that I don't know it all and accepted that there is a possibility I could be wrong and opened my mind.

How have you seen this "borderline violence" manifested?

[wirerat123]

Originally Posted by SpiderSilva7

You can believe whatever dumb thing you want. Just don't shove it in everyone's face. People who do deserve to get shot down immediately.

That stuff goes both ways.

It's hilarious, Atheists all the time trying to pretend like someone is shoving something in their faces lol. it's hilarious. You'd think they lived during the crusades or the inquisitions lol.

[dramaqueen]OMG HE'S WEARING A CROSS, HE'S SHOVING HIS RELIGION IN MY FACE WHA WHA WHA!![/dramaqueen]

[SeattleFightFan]

Originally Posted by Foote92

What if i told you 90% of people claiming to be religious really aren't.

again to paraphrase Mere Christianity the definition of someone being Christian is believing that Jesus was God's son.

you can judge and say the are being a bad Christian. but it's pretty hard to judge and say someone isn't a Christian. unless they've come out and said point blank "Jesus was just a guy with good charisma"

[phishin42]

Originally Posted by wirerat123

That stuff goes both ways.

It's hilarious, Atheists all the time trying to pretend like someone is shoving something in their faces lol. it's hilarious. You'd think they lived during the crusades or the inquisitions lol.

[dramaqueen]OMG HE'S WEARING A CROSS, HE'S SHOVING HIS RELIGION IN MY FACE WHA WHA WHA!![/dramaqueen]

http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2011/05...ion-vs-income/

I like pie.

[wirerat123]

Originally Posted by SeattleFightFan

the "science v religion" is often so strawman. it's maddening, really. most (more than half) of polled professional scientists believe in God. Scientific American has done many polls. there doesn't have to be a "one or the other" attitude.

alas, when some religious folks want to deny ALL SCIENTIFIC FOUNDATION and ALL biology simply because it may lead them to uncomfortable questions about how humans were created, it gets us in a bind. to deny all facets of evolution (where the fuck do they think they get colds and the flu from???) simply because of the issues brought up 100 years ago in the Scopes trial is where this comes from.

alas, round and round we go

^ Excellent statement ^

Both side of the religion debate have their retard moments..

[SeattleFightFan]

Originally Posted by wirerat123

That stuff goes both ways.

It's hilarious, Atheists all the time trying to pretend like someone is shoving something in their faces lol. it's hilarious. You'd think they lived during the crusades or the inquisitions lol.

[dramaqueen]OMG HE'S WEARING A CROSS, HE'S SHOVING HIS RELIGION IN MY FACE WHA WHA WHA!![/dramaqueen]

the folks who want to shut down Christmas pageant's are dicks.

but so are the people who want to teach creationism in science class.

the big difference is, the 2nd group has a) more pull and b) will cause exponentially more damage in the long run.

[wirerat123]

Originally Posted by phishin42

http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2011/05...ion-vs-income/

I like pie.

So modern idiots measure of a man (wealth and education level) is some sort of poof that their is no possibility that a higher power might exist? Interesting concept lol. because Atheists tend to be a little more educated and wealthy, then God can't exist.

Good logic lol. And they like to pretend to be smart.....

[Uchi Mata]

Originally Posted by wirerat123

But even most highly educated Atheists I know admit that science has yet to even come remotely close to disproving creation, and never can disprove creation because logically if there is a higher power, pretending his time line and method of creation is the same as ours or what we think it should be is once again denying logical possibilities.

Hawking and so many of these popular writers and speakers that do their best to discredit religion often times speak in absolutes and leave no room for possibilities. Leaving NO room for possibilities is a very ignorant thing to do.

You're completely missing the point. The burden of proof isn't on atheists to disprove something you believe for no reason other than you were told so by your parents/religious leaders. If you contort your definition of what 'creation' is enough, then sure it'll mesh with scientific evidence.

Leaving room for possibilities is what scientists do that religious people don't do. I think if you presented Stephen Hawking with some significant piece of hard evidence that creation happened in any way remotely indicative of the biblical version, he'd conclude that the biblical version was more likely. If you presented him with enough evidence, he'd probably conclude it was the most likely explanation for how we got here. You just don't have any evidence, so the view he and most scientists hold is that the best evidence suggests that we got here through some sort of natural evolutionary process after the Earth formed following billions of years of universe expansion and star/planet formation. How all this happened is unknown, but just because it's unknown doesn't mean the most likely explanation is an omnipotent being. If we're really being good scientists, we say 'we don't know' and keep looking for the answer, not invent one out of whole-cloth.

Let me ask you this, assuming you're religious. Do you leave room for the possibility that everything you believe about religion is false? In the absence of hard evidence of God, heaven, or hell, have you changed your beliefs to reflect the strong possibility that this world is all there is?

[SpiderSilva7]

Originally Posted by wirerat123

That stuff goes both ways.

It's hilarious, Atheists all the time trying to pretend like someone is shoving something in their faces lol. it's hilarious. You'd think they lived during the crusades or the inquisitions lol.

[dramaqueen]OMG HE'S WEARING A CROSS, HE'S SHOVING HIS RELIGION IN MY FACE WHA WHA WHA!![/dramaqueen]

You can believe that you can talk to dead people. Just keep it to yourself. No one wants to hear your bullshit. It's very simple. But if you do run around shouting that you can talk to dead relatives, someone really should tell you to sit down and shut up ASAP. Society is way too nice to people like that.