Newsflash: Frankie is a natural Bantamweight - Page 21

MMA-Aficionado · 02-13-2013, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by willin

So, you're saying that a fighter is worthy of a Title Fight moving down, even if he has won only 1 fight in his last 5, just by being competitive?

One in his last four champ.

And no I'm not saying "a fighter", I am saying Frankie Edgar, whose last three losses were extremely close and in title fights, not just any fights, and as i just said, whom many argue he won two or more of the fights.

Personally, I do not have an issue with Frankie getting an immediate title shot, but each to their own.

kakoserrano · 02-13-2013, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkHammer

The only people who'd dislike that are probably Just Bleeders who can't enjoy a fight unless they expect a knockout. Cruz vs Edgar would be all kinds of fun, two guys who never sit still and are difficult to time. I'd love to see it. I would, however, prefer Frankie to fight once or twice more before getting another title shot. Even though I did score his last fight 48-47 Edgar.

I can't enjoy a fight if I know for sure that there will be no KO and no sub. Don't you think it takes away the surprise factor a little bit?

**Substance Abuse** · 02-13-2013, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MMA-Aficionado

49000 posts!! Wow - and you still post this shit. Stop sullying the Sherdog forum with such rubbish.

I never said he wasn't a good fighter - on the contrary, he is an excellent fighter and my post says that I thought he won you fuckwit!

And you're natural weight IS NOT what you weigh in at - everyone cuts to make that, so it is not their natural "fight" weight unless they did not cut.

You are a moron. Stop posting and GTFO!

Aww, how cute, calling people names because you're gotten to.

Actually, if we're paying attention to semantics, it's been stated clearly, numerous times that Edgar doesn't cut weight when he fights at lightweight. So in the grand scheme of things, Edgar is a natural lightweight. If we're using your logic, then he's a natural lightweight, not a natural bantamweight.

You just contradicted yourself with this post. Please put the tin foil hat back on.

P0rkchop · 02-13-2013, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Judo Thai Boxer

Yup, been saying this for a while.

Hell, he's smaller than Benavidez. He could probably make FLW.

He's a muscular guy, this is not true

P0rkchop · 02-13-2013, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Substance Abuse

Aww, how cute, calling people names because you're gotten to.

Actually, if we're paying attention to semantics, it's been stated clearly, numerous times that Edgar doesn't cut weight when he fights at lightweight. So in the grand scheme of things, Edgar is a natural lightweight. If we're using your logic, then he's a natural lightweight, not a natural bantamweight.

You just contradicted yourself with this post. Please put the tin foil hat back on.

Yes he does cut weight when he fights at LW. Maybe not a lot but he certainly cuts

JammG · 02-13-2013, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MMA-Aficionado

But the difference is they are against the champion - and all extremely close decisions, two or three of which many argue he won.

So basically, he is right at or just below, championship level.

At most he should have to win one at BW first - but I wouldn't have an issue with him getting an immediate title shot. I think he has earned it.

I think you're in the minority then, most fans will have a problem with a guy getting a title shot off of 3 losses. It's partly about deserving a title shot, which you could I suppose make a case for if he won a fight or two at bw, though I'd still disagree... It's also partly about getting him back on track. He's lost 3 in a row. It's time for him to get back on a roll first and get some of that confidence back.

**Substance Abuse** · 02-13-2013, 07:04 PM

Frankie should fight Faber next.

mister who · 02-13-2013, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MMA-Aficionado

he as in the cage at about 160 lbs of solid muscle. That is not slight for someone who is 5"6 (regardless of how much he had to eat to maintain the weight). Trust me.

Kyung Ho says he starts his weight cut at 165lbs. That's a pretty big bantamweight. Hyun Gu couldn't even make the cut to 170lbs for UFC Macao and reportedly cuts from 210lbs.

Excessive weightcutting is getting out of hand. I want to see a "in the octagon" weight just to see how much other fighters are cutting.

unknown48 · 02-13-2013, 07:17 PM

who cares............. the more frankie moves down the less effective he seems to me. He gives up his speed advantage and gains nothing in power over people the same size. I think he should fight at 155 all the time. I don't agree that he beat aldo like people seem to think , but i do think he beat Henderson that second time. First fight could have gone either way as well.

mister who · 02-13-2013, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by unknown48

who cares............. the more frankie moves down the less effective he seems to me. He gives up his speed advantage and gains nothing in power over people the same size. I think he should fight at 155 all the time. I don't agree that he beat aldo like people seem to think , but i do think he beat Henderson that second time. First fight could have gone either way as well.

This is a great point. He loses his advantages he enjoys while fighting at 155, mainly speed and cardio. Yet he gains nothing back in return. He should just stay at 155.