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02-13-2013, 06:56 PM
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Green Belt
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Do too many rules hurt modern grappling?
I just finished listening to cael sanderson's interview with Jim Rome about wrestling being cut. Sanderson said that wrestling can be simple for a non educated viewer to understand but there are too many rules today.
I have done 5 BJJ tournaments in my 4 years of training. 2 IBJJF tournaments and the other 3 opens. I got in trouble with one for not wearing a proper rashguard. To be honest it wasn't a rashguard but a UA shirt. Another one I had my Gi ripped during one fight. It was my second tournament ever after only 6 months of training and I got a friend to loan me his gi top but it didnt match with my pants. Luckily it was a open and the ref in the end said it was ok.
I listen to the podcasts especially inside BJJ talking about knee reaping or gi patches in wrong places and guys can't compete. This forum and youtube videos talks a lot about this as well.
Judo guys complain about to many rules hurting the sport. I think one recent thread talked about how the rule books got too long.
Rules are important to have organized event not a vale tudo match. Safety is important but when do you sacrifice the sport/art for the sake of putting in more rules to please a international committee or to increase viewership.
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02-13-2013, 07:04 PM
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Rules for safety are good.
Rules that restrict legit technique to make a sport more spectator friendly or keep its identity (wtf?) =bad.
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02-13-2013, 07:24 PM
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I haven't competed yet but plan on it in the near future. One reason is the rules. I come from the,BJJ is a fighting art first and a sport second,point of view. One reason I know I will probably lose is, everybody says your first tournament is the toughest, but aside from that I'm going in to submit. I don't care about the point structure nor will I take a position to get points if a sacrificial sub is right there waiting. If I get points it's because the position lent itself for a sub attempt. It's sub or get subbed and I'm comfortable with either. Hallelujah, Amen! Where's the damn vodka.
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02-13-2013, 07:39 PM
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keep adding rules and eventually bjj/wrestling/judo become no more than taekwondo
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02-13-2013, 07:48 PM
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I loved the openness with rolling.
Come as you are. Take any grip you want for as long as you want. Stand if you like, sit if you like. Any color is cool as long as you keep it clean.
Maybe the sleeves will be long. Maybe they won't be. Maybe the belt will fall off, maybe it won't.
In terms of grappling everything was okay. Now there are rules for the sake of having rules.
Tragic in my opinion.
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02-13-2013, 08:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pheonix5
I haven't competed yet but plan on it in the near future. One reason is the rules. I come from the,BJJ is a fighting art first and a sport second,point of view. One reason I know I will probably lose is, everybody says your first tournament is the toughest, but aside from that I'm going in to submit. I don't care about the point structure nor will I take a position to get points if a sacrificial sub is right there waiting. If I get points it's because the position lent itself for a sub attempt. It's sub or get subbed and I'm comfortable with either. Hallelujah, Amen! Where's the damn vodka.
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sounds like you got your excuses all primed and ready to go
i'm all about teh sub bro!!!11
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02-13-2013, 08:16 PM
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Yes, the new international wrestling rules are GARBAGE. Everyone agrees on that. The boxing rules in the Olympics are terrible as well. I think they hurt both sports greatly.
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02-13-2013, 08:20 PM
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Gold Belt
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Reaping rules have made it so, I have no idea what really is reaping naymore
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02-13-2013, 08:25 PM
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Brown Belt
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I reap all the time in no gi.
Fuck the ibjjf.
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02-13-2013, 08:28 PM
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Gold Belt
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shunyata
I reap all the time in no gi.
Fuck the ibjjf.
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I feel that everything is reaping nowadays that involves the opponents foot in any way.
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