Two Greatest Soldiers of Faith (Picture)

[notoverrated]

Originally Posted by NukeofHazard

There is nothing wrong in believing in god.. just like there is nothing wrong in believing that Elvis is still alive... The problem arises when the faithful try to push junk science into schools, deny evolution, stop stem cell research, infringe on human rights, brainwash children, start religious wars, claim special benefits based on their belief, force their beliefs onto others.. etc.. etc..

Also, when guys like Vitor or Jones go around thanking Jebus for their victories, all that does is paint a picture that Jebus is more interested in helping rich athletes than suffering children..

i can understand your first part.....but come on now your just reaching with "jesus only helps athletes" i really hope you don't believe that's what their saying. Jon has already talked about how god really isnt fighting for him but just giving him the strength to fight, which would be like another poster said "thanking your mom" these people believe that god created them why wouldn't they feel the need to thank him?

[tuoppi]

Originally Posted by gokousupasayan

Much respect for athletes who are willing to step outside of the norm and proclaim their faith in a society that is fairly hostile to it.

I think atheists face more hostility than christians. I am pretty sure in most western countries christians don't really face that much hostility at all.

[Tamburlaine]

Originally Posted by Ravden

Bendo and Vitor have channeled their faith to impact their lives in a positive way. Haters can suck a dick.

No doubt. However, please recognize that your "channeling" argument is dependent on a logical maneuver that would presumably make ANYTHING all right so long as it impacts one's life in a positive way.

Someone did roids to channel your training and recovery efforts and thus become a better fighter? Haters can suck a dick.

I'm sure you can imagine even more ridiculous examples.

[Ravden]

Originally Posted by Tamburlaine

No doubt. However, please recognize that your "channeling" argument is dependent on a logical maneuver that would presumably make ANYTHING all right so long as it impacts one's life in a positive way.

Someone did roids to channel your training and recovery efforts and thus become a better fighter? Haters can suck a dick.

Yes, because cheating is the same as believing in Jesus.

Originally Posted by Tamburlaine

I'm sure you can imagine even more ridiculous examples.

You've already got that covered.

[tNa1CarN]

If i can change
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and you can change
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WE CAN ALL CHANGE

[NetHazard]

Good for them and anyone else who is religious, but personally I'm sick of them shoving it down everyone's throats.

[the muntjac]

[GordaoPreguico]

Originally Posted by NetHazard

Good for them and anyone else who is religious, but personally I'm sick of them shoving it down everyone's throats.

Did they force you to click on this thread, follow them on twitter, friend them on facebook, or listen to their post fight speech which you knew would be full of hallelujahs?

[NetHazard]

Originally Posted by GordaoPreguico

Did they force you to click on this thread, follow them on twitter, friend them on facebook, or listen to their post fight speech which you knew would be full of hallelujahs?

Yes, they did.

Seriously though? What a shitty argument.

[Da Speeit]

Originally Posted by GordaoPreguico

Did they force you to click on this thread, follow them on twitter, friend them on facebook, or listen to their post fight speech which you knew would be full of hallelujahs?

I'm not an athiest, but let me tell you what being a non-Christian is like in America:
It's like the sun is beaming down, it's humid as shit, and 8 out of every 10 people you see are bundled up with sweaters, coats, scarves, and boots, while you're walking in shorts and a t-shirt.

They may not comment, they may not glance over, but there's that moment when someone starts ranting about how cold it is, and then look at you like a soulless madman if you don't agree. It's puzzling, because there's no evidence that they should be wearing a sweater, and it's probably even harmful, but your T-Shirt sticks out them as far more challenging.

That's what it's like hearing about Jesus every day of my life when the shit Christians believe about him is probably not even close to true.

Personally, my believes may or may not be true, but i really don't care enough about what others believe to have to validate it.

That said, a lot of atheists and non-christians in America grew up with Christianity being forced down their throat and have a special kind of hatred for it.
It's a perfectly reasonable disdain, and their disdain should be equally respected to other's beliefs, which, unfortunately it isnt.

When i can watch a superbowl, the Grammy's (i watch every couple of years), etc. without hearing about Jesus, maybe you'll have a point.