[QUOTE=eastNYgoon138;79248103]Well, it's not "bad" technique. It's just too advanced for a beginner lifter, and that's who he's selling it too, which I disagree with as well. For a more advanced weightlifter, strongman or generally stronger individuals it's a good way to increase their overhead strength.[/quote[
Increased risk of injury = bad. Not difficult.
You keep asserting it is advanced. Please support this. And compare and contrast this with injuries with respect to traditional press and laying back in the press (a good idea would be to review data from when the press started to deteriorate as an Olympic lift (i.e., the technique was considered 'bad') and the increase in number of lower back injuries.
Well I teach it to plenty of people who will probably never power clean over 250-lbs just for the simple fact that they're learning the lift for their general health. And for that kind of person, the technique is great. It's simple to learn and employ.
Gee, imagine what they might be able to power clean if they did it correctly. And, of course, learning a lift using proper technique provides so many obvious benefits that I am not even going to bother to list them.
Another unsupported assertion. Please do better than PhelpsMMA and actually support this. You will obviously need to do something about the increase in shearing force given the "hips high" position advocated by Mark (a position which was abandoned by the weightlifting community decades ago because better ways were found which resulted in more weight moved and less lower back injury).
And by support I mean do not repeat this again, actually back up your statements.
I'm completely uninterested in the controversy surrounding Rip. His work helps people get strong and healthy and he reaches far more common people than any other coach out there right now.
Some people actually manage to get strong using crossfit. Does not make it any good. And support that Mark reaches more common people than any other coach. Would be interested in seeing actually data to support this.
Every week I see new men and women in the gym squatting, and 99% of the time they're doing Starting Strength.
I see people squatting all the time too. None of them are doing starting strength. This is why something more than anecdotal data would be nice from you. Endless series of assertions really mean nothing.
I think it's fucking awesome. We need another 100 Rip's to fix this terrible fitness industry.
So let's see:
1. Markets someone else's program.
2. Teaches technique wrong.
2a. Above increases risk of injury.
2b. Above makes learning proper technique more difficult as ingrained bad habits are incredibly difficult to break with respect to the Olympic lifts.
3. Insults coaches who are more successful than him as "bad coaches."
4. Lies about other coaches.
5. Claims credit for coaching lifters who do not even know his name.
6. Lies about coaching and weightlifting organizations as a whole (both the USAW and NSCA, for example)
7. Never coached a great weightlifter, yet holds himself as an authority.
8. Refuses to go anywhere (real life or the net) where he can actually get called on any of the above.
9. Is moving further and further into cult-type status similar to crossfit.
10. Complains about the people who do the same thing, particularly point number 9.
Yet this is "fixing the fitness industry?"
We apparently have different definitions of fix. Marketing bullshit =/= fix.
Note, assuming you can actually support your points, I will support all of mine. If you are just going to assert the same crap again, just let me know so.