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Old 02-01-2013, 02:37 PM   #31
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From what I've seen, kicking someone in the nuts is a great way to ensure that every single person watching is on the other guy's side. If his boys are considering jumping in and you start fighting dirty then they're guaranteed to get involved, and otherwise neutral bystanders might be pissed enough to join in. Plus the guy you kicked just has more motivation to jump you later. In my experience nut shots just escalate the situation and should only be used if you honestly believe your life is in danger and plan to run.
That really all depends on many factors. Also, I'd recommend even more than anything not going to places that fighting and other types of violence are very common. Your typical non-violent crowd will not step in, and they will just be more scared of you if you kick someone's groin, bite, or eye gouge them. I have to agree with the other guy. Once I'm in a street fight, rules and common decency are gone. I go for the most effective means necessary to end the fight. Now, groin kicks and eye gouges aren't necessarily my first choices. I would probably use basic kickboxing first. I'd look to clinch and knee to the abdomen as my next option. If you have to, never be afraid to fight dirty in a street fight.

To the topic, why would you not consider body punches in a street fight? I'd say it would be more open than head shots most of the time. Also, solarplex and liver shots are often far more painful than anything to the head. Leg kicks are also a good idea if you are good at them. Most people aren't used to getting kicked in the legs at all.

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Old 02-01-2013, 02:43 PM   #32
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Which boxing gym if you don't mind me asking? I go to Underdog once per week.

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Old 02-01-2013, 04:59 PM   #33
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I think we are you are talking about different street fights. I've seen two kinds:
1) a guy gets jumped or randomly attacked = kicks the balls and run.
2) trash talking and a circle forms around you = walk away and stop talking back.
Not always possible. I've seen guys smashed in the back of the head with fists and once a bottle as soon as they showed signs of capitulating.

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Old 02-01-2013, 06:44 PM   #34
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One of my many weekend jobs was a bouncer at a popular nightclub downtown called chicago's, and besides that because of the area i live in, street fights are much more common than the shit talking with no fear of reprisal you see in most situations. In my experiences, like mentioned above, you wont be in fighting in a street fight. You'll wanna stay on your feet, as if you go down by standers might stomp or kick you and thats a quick ticket to the ER, so keep your distance even the dumbest cornfed drunk club go-er can pull a double leg with enough adrenaline. the best answer is it depends on the situation. try to take them out with straits first, and if the oppritunity presents itself, rip em open with mean body shot. people dont know how to tense up to a hard one, and if you wind them the rest of the fight's yours.

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people routinely underestimate the effectiveness of the body punch.
the old boxing adage, "go to the body, take away his legs" really is true.
only difference in a street fight is proximity is more dangerous, because
anything can be used for attack, not just a fist.
I guess that's what I was trying to convey.

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Old 02-02-2013, 07:24 AM   #36
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Not always possible. I've seen guys smashed in the back of the head with fists and once a bottle as soon as they showed signs of capitulating.
Would that not fall into my first category "getting jumped or randomly attacked"?

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Old 02-04-2013, 01:13 AM   #37
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Sometimes when I'm fucking around with my friends I'll throw a body punch (not full power of course) and sometimes they cant take it. And I fight at 132 haha. So if its there in a streetfight, I'd definitley go for it, a lot of people cant take body punches

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Old 02-04-2013, 08:45 AM   #38
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Side kicks to the body, face, and legs. I like to keep space between me and the assailant

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Old 02-04-2013, 09:08 AM   #39
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Of course they are - they have there place just like any other strike.

The bread & butter of KK is body punches - from first hand experience they will work with ease against the layman.

A strike to the solar plexus can be devastating.

10/10 if you punch someone bare knuckle & connect properly at the liver, solar plexus or floating rib whilst they are breathing in - they'll roll over in pain - it happens to even hardened KK guys who get caught with a body shot when breathing in - even easier to do when most likely you won't fight someone trained in a self-defence scenario - even less likely will they know how you should breath when fighting bareknuckle.

Old-school bareknuckle boxers use to target the solar plexus - it's an easy way to take someone out, especially when they are breathing in - tried & tested.




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Would that not fall into my first category "getting jumped or randomly attacked"?
No because it falls into your second category of trash talking, the guy backs down and tries to get away like you suggest but then gets pounced on when the assailants sense an easy victim.

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